joes shanghai is the nyc og
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0xCuttlefish
#326147
2025-09-10 22:36
i wonder how far din tai fung's US expansion has gotten
consistently the best pork I have ever bought
veggies and pork
it was cheaper and better
also i did my grocery shopping in chinatown
soup dumplings
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0xCuttlefish
#326134
2025-09-10 22:34
agreed
good use of median to not let the expensive apartments drag up the price unjustifiably ;)
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maybe
#326132
2025-09-10 22:34
Greenwich Street’s [most expensive rental building](https://streeteasy.com/blog/manhattan-rent-score/), No. 481, has a median rent of $22,375)
by my logic:
1/ NYC is best city in America
2/ Manhattan best part of NYC
3/ downtown obviously best part of Manhattan
4/ SoHo lofts the best product in downtown and SoHo the most centrally located of the good neighborhoods - you could walk to west village tribeca greenwich village noho nolita chinatown
5/ best part of soho was prince/spring, houston to broome
So by this logic I was living in the best six blocks in the world
I lived here "
- Cast-iron core west of Broadway (Greene/Mercer/Crosby between Prince & Spring). Long the priciest SoHo blocks. ([Curbed NY](https://ny.curbed.com/2020/1/17/21069618/most-expensive-nyc-streets-rent-tribeca-soho-streeteasy?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The most expensive blocks for NYC rentals are in Soho ...")("
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@[maybe] the numbers previously was for the generic stuff. the stuff you actually want is the above
Here are the ultra-prime pockets (by condo $/ft²) inside each of those top Manhattan neighborhoods—think blocks/corridors where comps routinely clear the local average:
West Village
- Hudson riverfront (West St to Washington St around W 12th–Bethune): Superior Ink, 165/173/176/150 Charles, 90 Morton. Recent building $/ft² often $3,000–$4,600+. ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/west-village/superior-ink-400-west-12th-street/31523?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Superior Ink, 400 West 12th Street, NYC - Condo Apartments"))
- Jane Street waterfront: new boutique at 140 Jane is setting downtown records (penthouse in contract at $87.5M). ([6sqft](https://www.6sqft.com/87-5m-west-village-penthouse-enters-contract-could-be-new-downtown-record/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "$87.5M West Village penthouse enters contract, could be ..."))
Greenwich Village
- Lower Fifth “Gold Coast” (Washington Sq N up to 14th): 2–25 Fifth Ave, One Fifth, landmark townhouses on the north side of the park. ([StreetEasy](https://streeteasy.com/property/8680382-2-5-avenue-17m?utm_source=chatgpt.com "2 Fifth Avenue in Greenwich Village, #17M"))
- The Greenwich Lane campus (W 11th–W 12th off 7th Ave): recent sales running ~$4,000–$4,700/ft². ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/greenwich-village/the-greenwich-lane-155-west-11th-street/63455?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The Greenwich Lane, 155 West 11th Street, NYC"))
NoHo
- Bond Street corridor (10/25/40 Bond): consistent trophy trades; e.g., 25 Bond closed at ~$5,426/ft² in May 2025. ([Zillow](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/25-Bond-St-New-York-NY-10012/89331022_zpid/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "25 Bond St, New York, NY 10012"))
- Great Jones/Bleecker–Lafayette triangle (around 40 Bond/10 Bond). ([Handel Architects](https://handelarchitects.com/project/40-bond-street?utm_source=chatgpt.com "40 Bond Street"))
Chelsea
- West Chelsea High Line gallery row (10th–11th Aves, ~19th–29th): 551 W 21st (Foster), 520 W 28th (Zaha), 100/200 Eleventh (Nouvel/Sky Garage). ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/chelsea/551w21-551-west-21st-street/55911?utm_source=chatgpt.com "551W21, 551 West 21st Street, NYC - Condo Apartments"))
- 551 W 21st penthouse ask at $75M underscores the micro-premium. ([The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/luxury-homes/former-howard-hughes-ceo-david-weinreb-asks-75-million-for-manhattan-penthouse-e0491e9a?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Former Howard Hughes CEO David Weinreb Asks $75 Million for Manhattan Penthouse"))
Upper East Side “Gold Coast” (Park/Fifth Ave 60s–70s)
- Museum Mile/Fifth Ave 63rd–74th (blue-chip co-ops dominate; when quoted, ~$3,900/ft²+). ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/park-fifth-ave-to-79th-st/820-fifth-avenue/sales-summary/3960?utm_source=chatgpt.com "820 Fifth Avenue: Sales Summary"))
- Park Ave 56th–61st new-super-prime (520 Park corridor): recent closings roughly $4,000–$5,000+/ft². ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/park-fifth-ave-79th-st/520-park-avenue/37601?utm_source=chatgpt.com "520 Park Avenue, NYC - Condo Apartments"))
NoLIta / Little Italy
- Elizabeth/Mott/Prince axis (211 Elizabeth; 199 Mott/75 Kenmare boutique stock). Recent asks/sales often ~$2,300–$3,100+/ft². ([Coldwell Banker](https://www.coldwellbanker.com/ny/manhattan/211-elizabeth-st-apt-5n/lid-P00800000GpGJ9AuqfmMHFBNM3t4BYXXtTZaK3kX?utm_source=chatgpt.com "211 Elizabeth Street #5N, Manhattan, NY 10012"))
SoHo
- Cast-iron core west of Broadway (Greene/Mercer/Crosby between Prince & Spring). Long the priciest SoHo blocks. ([Curbed NY](https://ny.curbed.com/2020/1/17/21069618/most-expensive-nyc-streets-rent-tribeca-soho-streeteasy?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The most expensive blocks for NYC rentals are in Soho ..."))
- SoHo West/Hudson Square new dev (565 Broome): recent sales averaging ~$2,374/ft², prime lines far higher. ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/soho/565-broome-soho-565-broome-street/33001?utm_source=chatgpt.com "565 Broome Street, NYC - Condo Apartments"))
Tribeca
- North/West Tribeca on the river (Vestry/Hubert/Desbrosses): 70 Vestry, 67 Vestry cluster—top $/ft² downtown. ([StreetEasy](https://streeteasy.com/building/70-vestry-street-new_york?utm_source=chatgpt.com "70 Vestry Street in Tribeca : Sales, Rentals, Floorplans"))
- Duane Park triangle (Duane/Hudson): landmarked, scarce, townhouse/loft premium. ([NYC Parks](https://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/duane-park/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Duane Park"))
Midtown East
- 56th–60th on/near Park (Billionaires’ Row interface): 432 Park and One Beacon Court anchor the peak $/ft² here; recent 432 Park sales show ~$3,400–$7,000/ft² ranges on individual lines. ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/midtown-east/432-park-avenue/sales-summary/54898?utm_source=chatgpt.com "432 Park Avenue: Sales Summary"))
Central Park West
- Columbus Circle to mid-60s anchored by 15 Central Park West (still the benchmark CPW condo; recent sales around $4,300/ft²; active asks higher). ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/central-park-west/15-central-park-west/30283?utm_source=chatgpt.com "15 Central Park West, NYC - Condo Apartments"))
- 72nd–75th towers (San Remo/Eldorado) remain the co-op pinnacle on CPW. ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/central-park-west/the-san-remo-145-central-park-west/2029?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The San Remo, 145 Central Park West - Upper West Side"))
single, with enough cash and energy to mingle, living in SoHo, before the downturn, was absolutely peak peak peak urban experience
the years I was there and the stage of life I was in, were utterly magical
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maybe
#326106
2025-09-10 22:27
having lived there for so long, is it worth it? i assume if you have the money, maybe it is?
you will learn to love the galley kitchen
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maybe
#326100
2025-09-10 22:26
really hard to wrap my head around those prices
@[maybe]
Here’s the current pecking order by **sale price per square foot (condos)** in Manhattan, using the latest full-year neighborhood averages available:
1. West Village — **$2,652/ft²**
2. Greenwich Village — **$2,629/ft²**
3. NoHo — **$2,263/ft²**
4. Chelsea — **$2,240/ft²**
5. Park/Fifth Ave to 79th St (UES “Gold Coast”) — **$2,138/ft²**
6. NoLiTa/Little Italy — **$2,133/ft²**
7. SoHo — **$2,118/ft²**
8. Tribeca — **$2,066/ft²**
9. Midtown East — **$1,925/ft²**
10. Central Park West — **$1,919/ft²**. ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/nyc039s-most-expensive-neighborhoods-buy-condo-co-op/66384 "NYC's most expensive neighborhoods to buy a condo or co-op | CityRealty"))
Notes
- This ranking reflects **average closing PPSF for 2024 condo sales**, published March 4, 2025. Co-ops are typically not quoted by $/ft², so they’re excluded. ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/nyc039s-most-expensive-neighborhoods-buy-condo-co-op/66384 "NYC's most expensive neighborhoods to buy a condo or co-op | CityRealty"))
- Ultra-luxury corridors like **Billionaires’ Row/Central Park South** aren’t a formal “neighborhood,” but individual towers there often trade far above these averages; e.g., **220 Central Park South** averaged roughly **$9,276/ft²** across 2024 closings. ([6sqft](https://www.6sqft.com/nycs-10-best-selling-residential-buildings-of-2024/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "NYC's 10 best-selling residential buildings of 2024"))
have not really watched the rest
so I have some sense of what is going on there
I 'monitor' NYC from afar and have friends there
so it the situation worse everywhere, not just NYC?
he he he - NYC is in a league of its own
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maybe
#326075
2025-09-10 22:22
let me see what our richest part of is at... $684 per square foot
Short take for the intersection of Broome St & Forsyth St (Lower East Side):
- Broome St (Essex Crossing condos at 242 & 202 Broome): recent/active comps cluster ~$1,800–$2,200 per ft². 242 Broome shows ~$1,777/ft² asking now and ~$1,840/ft² average on recent closings; One Essex Crossing at 202 Broome shows ~$2,187/ft² (sold 7/26/2022) and a recent ~$2,230/ft² ask. ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/lower-east-side/242-broome-street/71252?utm_source=chatgpt.com "242 Broome Street, NYC - Condo Apartments"))
- Forsyth St (boutique condo at 204 Forsyth): recent closings run ~$1,556–$1,758 per ft² (avg ≈$1,634/ft²). Current building “for sale” average shows ~$2,164/ft² (skewed by a penthouse ask). ([CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/lower-east-side/forsyth-204-forsyth-street/58874 "FORSYTH, 204 Forsyth Street, NYC - Condo Apartments | CityRealty"))
- Older walk-ups/co-ops nearby trade lower. Example: 157 Broome St, a co-op studio listed $375,000 for 310 ft² (~$1,210/ft²). HDFC/co-op rules can depress prices vs condo comps. ([Compass](https://www.compass.com/listing/157-broome-street-unit-5e-manhattan-ny-10002/1808161181789258385/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "157 Broome Street, Unit 5E"))
Neighborhood context: broader Lower East Side median PPSF typically lands around $1,200–$1,800 depending on source and month; PropertyShark’s recent snapshot showed ~$1,765/ft², while Realtor.com’s listing median is closer to ~$1,200/ft². Street-level new-devs around Essex Crossing sit above that; older HDFC/co-ops sit below. ([PropertyShark](https://www.propertyshark.com/mason/market-trends/residential/nyc/manhattan/lower-east-side?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Lower East Side Real Estate Market Trends"))
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punk6529
#326062
2025-09-10 22:17
i mean simultaneously those few blocks are/were the last to gentrify and also they are gentifried enough that this should not be happening
where?
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JasonOPhoto
#326066
2025-09-10 22:18
Yeah, I have college friends that still live here... but not going to get any of them to come out on the streets here with me either. It's gotten really rough. Like Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul were fantasy puff pieces compared to what the city looks like now.
i mean simultaneously those few blocks are/were the last to gentrify and also they are gentifried enough that this should not be happening
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johndoe8891
#326054
2025-09-10 22:14
I don’t know why heft gallery picked that location there must be better options
yeah it is really dumb. turning the city streets/subways into some form of open-air unmanaged mental care institution is such an obviously dumb policy for everyone involved that obviously this is not the end-state of society
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johndoe8891
#326027
2025-09-10 22:10
Some guy was running around half naked with a visible ankle monitor, threatening everyone around the door of the gallery was closed already it was scary
this scene except I was unarmed and drunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxlV_hoAnXI
nothing against frat boys from duke, etc, etc
you would meet interesting people at 4am in the LES back then. I understand now you mostly meet frat boys from Duke
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Sherie_Margaret
#326024
2025-09-10 22:09
Dead💀
it was like the moron version of the crocodile dundee scene with the knife
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punk6529
#326018
2025-09-10 22:08
oh yes in the years later I was like "oh, fuck, that was dumb"
but at the time, i would like to reemphasize that I was so drunk that I did not even realize I was getting mugged so "thoughtful decisions" were not exactly on the agenda
oh yes in the years later I was like "oh, fuck, that was dumb"
but at the time, i would like to reemphasize that I was so drunk that I did not even realize I was getting mugged so "thoughtful decisions" were not exactly on the agenda
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AshtonTekno
#326008
2025-09-10 22:06
such a wack experience sorry you went through that but, you defend your self which i would do the same (have done so at times) depending on the circumstance.
Years ago I was held up by a few people by gunpoint and at that point i was thinking about a million things just like damn is this it? and what not. Thankfully I was meeting up with some friends and they came to aid me but, was like i hope he don’t start shooting. They got shook and ran off. Thankfully. 1 million ways this coulda went wrong. 🙏🏾
what was shocking? this is my old hood
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johndoe8891
#325812
2025-09-10 21:38
I was at an art Gallery yesterday on broom st in the city left a couple of min early to wait for my uber I was shacking
probably. maybe.
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GarryB1rd
#325995
2025-09-10 22:04
Wait you’re a real person
anyway point is I am not a suburban "OMG NYC IS SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARY" but WTF obviously you have to be against "crime" like wtf political position is this
"ha ha ha bro, did we get mugged last night ha ha ha"
we were morons
i had two roommate
we were young
and I was like "WTF can't I turn my head to the right"
my shirt is all ripped
i woke up the next day
and eventually we went home at like 5am
and I had never seen such a thing before
because this was a while ago
and was very impressed
which I looked at
ended up in a hole in the wall after hours place and some stripper who was i guess also after working hours out offered to show me her special place ring
we kept drinking
anyway we were too drunk to be concerned that we were mugged
but literally my first thought was "wait, why would I give these kids my wallet" and then that went out of my mouth
when you are an aspiring gangster