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punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75820 2025-04-14 22:11
the purpose of the wrapper is to isolate the taxes to the wrapper
Context from david #75818 2025-04-14 22:11
we are creating a wrapper at work. I am not sure the same logic would apply here but TBD
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75819 2025-04-14 22:11
the US tax treatment of that is not "the sale of the lemonade is tax free"
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75817 2025-04-14 22:10
if i say: "I am selling this lemonade with @[maybe] but we are not going to spend the money and we will give it later to someone else"
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75816 2025-04-14 22:10
dunno
Context from david #75813 2025-04-14 22:09
each grantee would be the ultimate recipient. everything else is automated and never controlled
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75815 2025-04-14 22:10
the risk of not picking a jurisdiction is that everyone decides they are your jurisdiction
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75812 2025-04-14 22:09
the negative of a wrapper is that there is a wrapper
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75811 2025-04-14 22:09
the benefit of a wrapper is you can pick a jurisdiction
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75808 2025-04-14 22:09
dunno, "where" is this thing
Context from david #75804 2025-04-14 22:08
unless the validators each control a sliver of it for voting on proposals but dont actually receive the funds and no one ever controls it until disbursement, right?
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75801 2025-04-14 22:07
so you either wrap it in an entity and isolate the tax to an entity and jurisdiction (doable but adds some centralization) or you distribute to validators which is fine but then you don't have a treasury
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75800 2025-04-14 22:06
the sale of the card is likely a taxable event!
Context from punk6529 #75798 2025-04-14 22:05
(aside from the artist)
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75798 2025-04-14 22:05
(aside from the artist)
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75797 2025-04-14 22:05
who is getting taxed
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75796 2025-04-14 22:05
when we sell a meme card for eth
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75795 2025-04-14 22:05
different topic
Context from david #75793 2025-04-14 22:05
but also we should make 6529 tokens claimable so you only pay taxes when you claim some
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75794 2025-04-14 22:05
it gets more confusing
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75792 2025-04-14 22:04
if you build a treasury with income)
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75791 2025-04-14 22:04
(the individual based on their local tax regime)
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75789 2025-04-14 22:04
it is clear who pays the taxes
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75787 2025-04-14 22:04
if you flow all income to the individuals
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75786 2025-04-14 22:04
what i mean is this
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75781 2025-04-14 22:03
yeah i know about it
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75779 2025-04-14 22:03
the answer is somewhere between daemon/freedom and the last firewall
Context from maybe #75771 2025-04-14 22:02
daemon/freedom getting literal
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75773 2025-04-14 22:02
the hard part is dealing with taxation
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75772 2025-04-14 22:02
that is not the hard part
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75770 2025-04-14 22:01
can convert to stables too etc etc
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75767 2025-04-14 22:01
and network will collect ETH 3x/week
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75764 2025-04-14 22:00
yah i think so - to be more precise i think we will need money
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75761 2025-04-14 22:00
yes all this is doable and will happen
Context from Sert #75759 2025-04-14 21:59
I think at some point we’ll face a vote on an important decision within the Network. There will probably be a need for shared funds that can only be unlocked with a certain TDH threshold, etc. It’s going to be really interesting to see how far we can get.
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75758 2025-04-14 21:59
"safe with TDH lock" is fine but if attacker has physical access they just blow the lock
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75757 2025-04-14 21:59
fuzzy to me still
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75756 2025-04-14 21:59
how this maps to physical world is harder
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75754 2025-04-14 21:58
so the digital/crypto version is solved/solvable
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75753 2025-04-14 21:58
the interesting question is how you can port this into physical world
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75751 2025-04-14 21:57
post decentralization
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75750 2025-04-14 21:57
this is our core defense asset
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75749 2025-04-14 21:57
attacker has to comprise large diverse group simultaneously
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75748 2025-04-14 21:56
defender has advantage
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75747 2025-04-14 21:56
and very very very very powerful
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75746 2025-04-14 21:56
technically speaking
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75745 2025-04-14 21:56
within a visible roadmap
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75743 2025-04-14 21:56
this is doable
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75742 2025-04-14 21:56
hold this naka in a at least 300M TDH consensus contract
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75738 2025-04-14 21:55
on crypto defenses
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75736 2025-04-14 21:55
i think the network can be very reslient
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75735 2025-04-14 21:55
fuzzy in my brain
Context from david #75730 2025-04-14 21:52
do you think our personal defense from physical attacks will come from the network itself?
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #75729 2025-04-14 21:52
maybe. though i think it is human cope
Context from Sert #75728 2025-04-14 21:52
I think he believes that the human brain, if enhanced, could have potential even beyond that of an artificial ASI, since ASI is ultimately created based on current human knowledge and capabilities. That’s the impression I got.
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75727 2025-04-14 21:51
the freedom vs safety dynamic is going to get very acute
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75726 2025-04-14 21:51
i also think quite adversarial in some ways
punk6529 Memes-Chat #75725 2025-04-14 21:51
i don't think people realize how weird it is going to get