Shit Punk Says...

punk6529: i need to bryan johnson asap - 2025-04-15 20:59:44.842000

punk6529: rare - 2025-04-15 20:59:35.726000

punk6529: oh god i am in physical end to end body pain from being tired - 2025-04-15 20:59:33.219000

punk6529: i am going to bed - 2025-04-15 20:56:56.192000

punk6529: and now i am exhausted bc i had to get up early - 2025-04-15 20:56:53.263000

punk6529: ok you guys kept me up late last night - 2025-04-15 20:56:44.983000

punk6529: i am sure it is fine but "sure" does not count for anything. the real layer of security is not putting anything you care about at risk regardless - 2025-04-15 20:54:49.463000

punk6529: you should mint from a hot wallet like i did - 2025-04-15 20:54:21.529000

punk6529: anyway you should not entrust your cold wallet to even me - 2025-04-15 20:54:10.975000

punk6529: saylor could not even - 2025-04-15 20:53:57.456000

punk6529: 444 AOS - 2025-04-15 20:53:39.793000

punk6529: https://shape.network/token - 2025-04-15 20:53:33.201000

punk6529: so if you have a consolidated hot wallet it should work - 2025-04-15 20:49:55.233000

punk6529: sorted profiles, accept any wallet in the profile - 2025-04-15 20:49:42.860000

punk6529: i think they did consolidation, not delegation - 2025-04-15 20:49:23.803000

punk6529: so i just claimed with the social wallet I use to log-in here - 2025-04-15 20:49:08.025000

punk6529: i am impressed and proud - 2025-04-15 20:48:53.875000

punk6529: they correctly (!) recognized consolidated hot wallets - 2025-04-15 20:48:50.505000

punk6529: use your hot wallet - 2025-04-15 20:48:39.091000

punk6529: but as always - 2025-04-15 20:48:33.217000

punk6529: shape thing is real - 2025-04-15 20:48:23.430000

punk6529: and i bet there will be a great ipad AI developer in 3 years - 2025-04-14 22:34:07.096000

punk6529: it might want a new ipad app though - 2025-04-14 22:33:47.276000

punk6529: network probably is not going to buy you dinner - 2025-04-14 22:33:36.658000

punk6529: and breaks some rep keeping things in check - 2025-04-14 22:32:49.548000

punk6529: makes it less fun internally - 2025-04-14 22:32:37.975000

punk6529: helps resistance - 2025-04-14 22:32:30.018000

punk6529: other thing: do we want voting deniability - 2025-04-14 22:32:23.313000

punk6529: going to be done by AIs - 2025-04-14 22:31:45.667000

punk6529: in 3-5 years - 2025-04-14 22:31:40.993000

punk6529: aren't most things we will want - 2025-04-14 22:31:37.757000

punk6529: another weird thing - 2025-04-14 22:31:32.962000

punk6529: everything in between - 2025-04-14 22:27:10.152000

punk6529: lawyers - 2025-04-14 22:27:08.254000

punk6529: plumbers - 2025-04-14 22:27:04.826000

punk6529: isn't that how everything works anyway - 2025-04-14 22:26:59.483000

punk6529: now you could make a revocable wrapper - 2025-04-14 22:26:47.388000

punk6529: that's my concern - 2025-04-14 22:26:38.767000

punk6529: i will label it - 2025-04-14 22:26:30.399000

punk6529: the most important thing is that it is unstoppable - 2025-04-14 22:25:52.476000

punk6529: nation state resistant > convenient for the network - 2025-04-14 22:24:35.562000

punk6529: bitcoin the decentralized network however should definitely not have a coinbase account - 2025-04-14 22:23:44.928000

punk6529: it is totally normal for a bitcoiner to have a coinbase account - 2025-04-14 22:23:31.231000

punk6529: buidling them - 2025-04-14 22:22:54.358000

punk6529: it is a vulnerability i think - 2025-04-14 22:22:49.449000

punk6529: i do not want the network to have fiat hooks - 2025-04-14 22:22:27.493000

punk6529: they can convert to fiat in their coinbase account - 2025-04-14 22:22:17.471000

punk6529: we want a lawyer to represent us in DC, we send them ETH - 2025-04-14 22:22:06.770000

punk6529: why can't this be done by an individual grantee - 2025-04-14 22:21:43.825000

punk6529: why do we need to convert to fiat? - 2025-04-14 22:21:32.797000

punk6529: simultaneously solve - 2025-04-14 22:19:40.586000

punk6529: not optimize actually - 2025-04-14 22:19:37.508000

punk6529: the number of things we need to (one needs to) optimize is nuts - 2025-04-14 22:19:27.387000

punk6529: DUNA on the other hand might protect from personal liability; dunno, it requires a lot of careful work - 2025-04-14 22:19:04.445000

punk6529: i want to see if we can avoid it - 2025-04-14 22:17:53.533000

punk6529: so since my design principle is BTC - 2025-04-14 22:17:43.434000

punk6529: is there is none of this - 2025-04-14 22:17:35.076000

punk6529: what i like about BTC - 2025-04-14 22:17:26.365000

punk6529: dunno - 2025-04-14 22:16:59.885000

punk6529: etc etc - 2025-04-14 22:16:54.864000

punk6529: assign reps to register - 2025-04-14 22:16:52.905000

punk6529: put another - 2025-04-14 22:16:46.971000

punk6529: then you need to vote to change the wrapper - 2025-04-14 22:16:43.131000

punk6529: later president AOC bans wrappers or whatever - 2025-04-14 22:16:27.863000

punk6529: right now crypto friendly admin - 2025-04-14 22:16:18.890000

punk6529: wrapper works too but introduces other issues that are edge issues but real - 2025-04-14 22:16:14.144000

punk6529: i think it is better to not take possession of money you don't want to be taxed on - 2025-04-14 22:15:47.990000

punk6529: and if we want 1 ETH from the next meme card to go to @[maybe] it just goes directly to maybe - 2025-04-14 22:14:55.326000

punk6529: my best guess so far is we pick the grantees in advance - 2025-04-14 22:14:05.181000

punk6529: maybe - 2025-04-14 22:13:53.314000

punk6529: what does this mean - 2025-04-14 22:12:53.409000

punk6529: it works but at the cost of some centralization - 2025-04-14 22:11:50.252000

punk6529: to serve as blocker - 2025-04-14 22:11:40.687000

punk6529: the purpose of the wrapper is to isolate the taxes to the wrapper - 2025-04-14 22:11:35.867000

punk6529: the US tax treatment of that is not "the sale of the lemonade is tax free" - 2025-04-14 22:11:06.183000

punk6529: if i say: "I am selling this lemonade with @[maybe] but we are not going to spend the money and we will give it later to someone else" - 2025-04-14 22:10:50.325000

punk6529: dunno - 2025-04-14 22:10:20.641000

punk6529: the risk of not picking a jurisdiction is that everyone decides they are your jurisdiction - 2025-04-14 22:10:14.704000

punk6529: the negative of a wrapper is that there is a wrapper - 2025-04-14 22:09:45.364000

punk6529: the benefit of a wrapper is you can pick a jurisdiction - 2025-04-14 22:09:30.543000

punk6529: dunno, "where" is this thing - 2025-04-14 22:09:16.638000

punk6529: so you either wrap it in an entity and isolate the tax to an entity and jurisdiction (doable but adds some centralization) or you distribute to validators which is fine but then you don't have a treasury - 2025-04-14 22:07:31.176000

punk6529: the sale of the card is likely a taxable event! - 2025-04-14 22:06:22.017000

punk6529: (aside from the artist) - 2025-04-14 22:05:46.700000

punk6529: who is getting taxed - 2025-04-14 22:05:41.968000

punk6529: when we sell a meme card for eth - 2025-04-14 22:05:38.264000

punk6529: different topic - 2025-04-14 22:05:28.842000

punk6529: it gets more confusing - 2025-04-14 22:05:15.078000

punk6529: if you build a treasury with income) - 2025-04-14 22:04:59.233000

punk6529: (the individual based on their local tax regime) - 2025-04-14 22:04:50.958000

punk6529: it is clear who pays the taxes - 2025-04-14 22:04:44.398000

punk6529: if you flow all income to the individuals - 2025-04-14 22:04:37.265000

punk6529: what i mean is this - 2025-04-14 22:04:31.398000

punk6529: yeah i know about it - 2025-04-14 22:03:56.802000

punk6529: the answer is somewhere between daemon/freedom and the last firewall - 2025-04-14 22:03:36.697000

punk6529: the hard part is dealing with taxation - 2025-04-14 22:02:16.361000

punk6529: that is not the hard part - 2025-04-14 22:02:06.993000

punk6529: can convert to stables too etc etc - 2025-04-14 22:01:58.668000

punk6529: and network will collect ETH 3x/week - 2025-04-14 22:01:32.958000

punk6529: yes - 2025-04-14 22:01:25.166000

punk6529: yah i think so - to be more precise i think we will need money - 2025-04-14 22:00:47.595000

punk6529: yes all this is doable and will happen - 2025-04-14 22:00:08.417000

punk6529: "safe with TDH lock" is fine but if attacker has physical access they just blow the lock - 2025-04-14 21:59:30.371000

punk6529: fuzzy to me still - 2025-04-14 21:59:09.180000

punk6529: how this maps to physical world is harder - 2025-04-14 21:59:06.396000

punk6529: so the digital/crypto version is solved/solvable - 2025-04-14 21:58:27.499000

punk6529: the interesting question is how you can port this into physical world - 2025-04-14 21:58:08.498000

punk6529: post decentralization - 2025-04-14 21:57:41.845000

punk6529: this is our core defense asset - 2025-04-14 21:57:30.367000

punk6529: attacker has to comprise large diverse group simultaneously - 2025-04-14 21:57:19.732000

punk6529: defender has advantage - 2025-04-14 21:56:56.949000

punk6529: and very very very very powerful - 2025-04-14 21:56:49.106000

punk6529: technically speaking - 2025-04-14 21:56:45.913000

punk6529: within a visible roadmap - 2025-04-14 21:56:41.131000

punk6529: this is doable - 2025-04-14 21:56:28.957000

punk6529: hold this naka in a at least 300M TDH consensus contract - 2025-04-14 21:56:13.119000

punk6529: on crypto defenses - 2025-04-14 21:55:31.797000

punk6529: i think the network can be very reslient - 2025-04-14 21:55:18.296000

punk6529: fuzzy in my brain - 2025-04-14 21:55:08.349000

punk6529: maybe. though i think it is human cope - 2025-04-14 21:52:43.738000

punk6529: the freedom vs safety dynamic is going to get very acute - 2025-04-14 21:51:54.941000

punk6529: i also think quite adversarial in some ways - 2025-04-14 21:51:22.401000

punk6529: i don't think people realize how weird it is going to get - 2025-04-14 21:51:07.280000

punk6529: this world is coming this decade - 2025-04-14 21:50:27.725000

punk6529: without waiting for your slow-ass, sleeping showering eating distracted human brain to give instructions - 2025-04-14 21:49:44.293000

punk6529: and it can handle it itself - 2025-04-14 21:49:28.261000

punk6529: "make sure to keep the bad guys out of the houes" - 2025-04-14 21:49:20.272000

punk6529: can't you tell it - 2025-04-14 21:49:09.398000

punk6529: if it is an ASI - 2025-04-14 21:49:05.669000

punk6529: why does it need access to your brain - 2025-04-14 21:48:58.794000

punk6529: 20 hours of the same zoom (or Teams!) call on top of the regular schedule - 2025-04-14 21:48:39.258000

punk6529: its been rough - 2025-04-14 21:48:20.745000

punk6529: except slowing the computers down - 2025-04-14 21:47:51.241000

punk6529: it is unclear to me that the human in this model adds anything - 2025-04-14 21:47:46.388000

punk6529: before someone else breaks in - 2025-04-14 21:47:31.825000

punk6529: and patch them - 2025-04-14 21:47:29.222000

punk6529: i think i would need an ASI running in my own house trying to hack my own cameras in advance - 2025-04-14 21:47:02.719000

punk6529: vs an ASI - 2025-04-14 21:46:14.492000

punk6529: i don't see how i could do it human level - 2025-04-14 21:46:07.645000

punk6529: there are a lot of things to monitor - 2025-04-14 21:45:56.088000

punk6529: dunno - 2025-04-14 21:45:50.366000

punk6529: (cyber secure, not physically secure) - 2025-04-14 21:45:23.339000

punk6529: could i make my house secure - 2025-04-14 21:45:18.525000

punk6529: but also living a somehow normal or "normal" life - 2025-04-14 21:45:12.792000

punk6529: assume high budget high tech savvy (me) - 2025-04-14 21:45:02.638000

punk6529: so i think to myself - 2025-04-14 21:44:51.739000

punk6529: not if they make it in - 2025-04-14 21:44:30.173000

punk6529: it will be a miracle if they don't make it in - 2025-04-14 21:44:24.968000

punk6529: 1/ your ISP's gear 2/ your consumer networking gear 3/ your / your family's / your guests phones and computers and ipads, probably not fully patched 4/ a bunch of IoT stuff - 2025-04-14 21:44:06.840000

punk6529: like think about your house - 2025-04-14 21:43:18.960000

punk6529: what chance are they going to have against ASI level probing, zero days, social engineering and phishing - 2025-04-14 21:42:25.623000

punk6529: people can barely (or not) keep their systems safe against human attackers - 2025-04-14 21:41:54.702000

punk6529: if undefended - 2025-04-14 21:41:24.211000

punk6529: not clear to me why everything on the internet won't get compromised - 2025-04-14 21:41:20.002000

punk6529: we are going to get unrelenting network attacks - 2025-04-14 21:40:58.979000

punk6529: like before physical attacks - 2025-04-14 21:40:51.644000

punk6529: maybe somehow decentralized - 2025-04-14 21:40:33.915000

punk6529: maybe it is the Estonian government - 2025-04-14 21:40:26.631000

punk6529: maybe it is MSFT - 2025-04-14 21:40:16.543000

punk6529: so take 3, we are going to get ASIs some of them will be open-source and be sent out to run on the internet no human cyber-defenses will survive an ASI attacker everyone will need to be under the defense of a cyberdefense ASI too - 2025-04-14 21:40:03.395000

punk6529: having too much fun to go anywhere lol - 2025-04-14 21:39:12.229000

punk6529: i am not going anywhere - 2025-04-14 21:38:53.857000

punk6529: leader I mean "computer" - 2025-04-14 21:38:48.291000

punk6529: so we are going to get ASIs - 2025-04-14 21:38:33.893000

punk6529: so it is POC only - 2025-04-14 21:38:24.770000

punk6529: the thing currently in core checks vs the centralized one we calculate ourselves - 2025-04-14 21:38:17.976000

punk6529: we are going to get ASIs - 2025-04-14 21:37:48.195000

punk6529: vibes strategy but i think right - 2025-04-14 21:37:39.041000

punk6529: and is in this direction - 2025-04-14 21:37:12.381000

punk6529: i will tell you the 'defense' thing that worries me - 2025-04-14 21:36:49.459000

punk6529: i think he means for enchanted objects - 2025-04-14 21:36:24.923000

punk6529: it is next thing coming - 2025-04-14 21:35:25.201000

punk6529: all the rest builds on this - 2025-04-14 21:35:21.751000

punk6529: super important - 2025-04-14 21:35:16.915000

punk6529: can we agree on TDH without a leader - 2025-04-14 21:35:07.945000

punk6529: this will be the first important backend decentralization thing - 2025-04-14 21:34:48.785000

punk6529: well, none. prenodes were not really doing anything decentralized. was a proof of concept. once we stabilize frontend, we will get back to a properly decentralized TDH consensus - 2025-04-14 21:34:38.331000

punk6529: at the most cutting edge of well cutting edge stuff - 2025-04-14 21:33:54.325000

punk6529: very exciting stuff - 2025-04-14 21:33:37.440000

punk6529: but i think my two big missions will be fundamentally mature by 2030 - 2025-04-14 21:33:32.255000

punk6529: 90% on this and 90% on something else that i think some day will 'merge' with this, noting that I can barely see how at the edge of my vision - 2025-04-14 21:33:06.270000

punk6529: only highly sensitive ones - 2025-04-14 21:32:14.238000

punk6529: most cases no i think - 2025-04-14 21:32:06.387000

punk6529: yes though i think it probably needs to be more fine-grained than just TDH for some use cases - 2025-04-14 21:30:46.463000

punk6529: could come find you - 2025-04-14 21:30:16.943000

punk6529: but a network owned/funded drone - 2025-04-14 21:30:09.134000

punk6529: may be very inconvenient - 2025-04-14 21:29:55.823000

punk6529: you showing up in barcelona this afternoon - 2025-04-14 21:29:48.769000

punk6529: they have things to do - 2025-04-14 21:29:40.069000

punk6529: well, this is a major pain in the ass for the human - 2025-04-14 21:29:28.903000

punk6529: and a human has to do something - 2025-04-14 21:29:18.159000

punk6529: and let's say you have these magical powers - 2025-04-14 21:29:13.946000

punk6529: "you go to barcelona" - 2025-04-14 21:29:05.882000

punk6529: imagine - 2025-04-14 21:28:59.903000

punk6529: i think it is downstream from AGI - 2025-04-14 21:28:39.578000

punk6529: etc - 2025-04-14 21:28:18.834000

punk6529: have rep from maybe - 2025-04-14 21:28:15.332000

punk6529: sgt pepe holders - 2025-04-14 21:28:13.441000

punk6529: TDH but also sub - clubs I think - 2025-04-14 21:28:05.490000

punk6529: yup - 2025-04-14 21:27:57.175000

punk6529: and no reaction from the traditional state - 2025-04-14 21:27:14.840000

punk6529: very few of the downsides - 2025-04-14 21:27:06.077000

punk6529: gets you all or almost all the benefits - 2025-04-14 21:27:00.395000

punk6529: but can happen at the object level - 2025-04-14 21:26:52.896000

punk6529: will get squashed - 2025-04-14 21:26:35.456000

punk6529: you can't do it at the state level - 2025-04-14 21:26:30.166000

punk6529: it is how the 'network state' becomes real - 2025-04-14 21:26:18.977000

punk6529: of enchanted physical objects - 2025-04-14 21:26:07.644000

punk6529: but i love love love the idea - 2025-04-14 21:26:01.306000

punk6529: in principle, you could pay with ETH too - 2025-04-14 21:25:52.385000

punk6529: are more interesting - 2025-04-14 21:25:44.455000

punk6529: though I think the non-fungible uses - 2025-04-14 21:25:41.293000

punk6529: i think both of the items you mentioned - 2025-04-14 21:25:30.620000

punk6529: what does personal defense mean - 2025-04-14 21:24:22.092000

punk6529: live at the exciting crossover between [tech] x [finance] x [something else] - 2025-04-14 21:23:37.680000

punk6529: been both currently neither - 2025-04-14 21:22:18.691000

punk6529: working on it - 2025-04-14 21:21:10.449000

punk6529: yes - 2025-04-14 21:18:39.290000

punk6529: oh no, i missed something - have we run out of kimchi? - 2025-04-14 21:18:26.446000

punk6529: (tomorrow, 4 left) - 2025-04-14 21:17:59.980000

punk6529: end is in sight - 2025-04-14 21:17:55.445000

punk6529: also involved me repeating the same things 20 times - 2025-04-14 21:17:41.444000

punk6529: (beyond the normal schedule of calls) - 2025-04-14 21:17:26.319000

punk6529: 4 left - 2025-04-14 21:17:16.560000

punk6529: had to do a thing that involved 20 zoom calls over 2 weeks - 2025-04-14 21:17:13.426000

punk6529: i have been in for the last few days - 2025-04-14 21:16:41.868000

punk6529: from GPT and zoom black holes - 2025-04-14 21:16:36.013000

punk6529: hello - 2025-04-14 21:16:29.446000

punk6529: let @[prxt0] if you need anything from FE or BE to help you - 2025-04-11 20:18:13.650000

punk6529: great! - 2025-04-11 20:11:56.391000

punk6529: so i angry cat typed on my phone - 2025-04-11 20:11:17.382000

punk6529: tried to find but have slightly obscure for Europe laptop - could not find in time - 2025-04-11 20:11:03.849000

punk6529: impressive - 2025-04-11 20:06:34.590000

punk6529: really really small club - 2025-04-11 20:06:13.764000

punk6529: wow - 2025-04-11 20:05:56.924000

punk6529: @[DGMD], @[Ruskin] and @[6529Museum] are the only >1 full setters - 2025-04-11 20:05:54.598000

punk6529: holy guacamole @[DGMD] - 2025-04-11 20:00:06.824000

punk6529: maybe we don't need to thank people for voting? I am not sure that is going to scale however we do it? :) - 2025-04-11 19:59:25.576000

punk6529: congratulations @[Gingerpotter] - 2025-04-11 19:58:19.501000

punk6529:  - 2025-04-11 19:47:02.217000

punk6529: back home - forgot my laptop charger so had to go for 24 hours without a laptop and just my phone. thank you for your support during this emotionally challenging time for me - 2025-04-11 19:45:54.855000

punk6529: Will be quiet until weekend - 2025-04-10 20:41:02.372000

punk6529: Just popping in to say gm - 2025-04-10 20:40:53.563000

punk6529: On the road - 2025-04-10 20:40:32.967000

punk6529: Hello - 2025-04-10 20:40:23.260000

punk6529: same as the other airdrops. goes away once we fully decentralize. - 2025-04-10 04:38:49.613000

punk6529: Yes includes your own - 2025-04-09 23:03:47.206000

punk6529: etc - 2025-04-09 22:57:09.711000

punk6529: community - 2025-04-09 22:57:07.689000

punk6529: support - 2025-04-09 22:57:06.819000

punk6529: and identity - 2025-04-09 22:57:03.363000

punk6529: what is the incentive to like a tweet, retweet it, quote tweet it or reply to it - 2025-04-09 22:55:22.158000

punk6529: no tdh :) - 2025-04-09 22:43:38.073000

punk6529: "burn your large investment to put a crap card that obviously nobody outside the cabal will buy" - 2025-04-09 22:43:32.299000

punk6529: what is the pitch? - 2025-04-09 22:43:10.487000

punk6529: contract - 2025-04-09 22:43:02.992000

punk6529: to start turning the contract into a shit - 2025-04-09 22:42:59.395000

punk6529: and have invested lots of money into the memes - 2025-04-09 22:42:46.387000

punk6529: who AFAICT do not previously know each other - 2025-04-09 22:42:37.410000

punk6529: you would have to convince dozens of people - 2025-04-09 22:42:28.587000

punk6529: it is very smooth - 2025-04-09 22:42:15.765000

punk6529: look at the distribution post me - 2025-04-09 22:42:08.257000

punk6529: i think it can't happen - 2025-04-09 22:41:54.691000

punk6529: even if i don't - 2025-04-09 22:41:51.941000

punk6529: what i am saying is that i thought about this 3 years ago and i think the distribution of TDH will not allow it - 2025-04-09 22:40:03.296000

punk6529: yup - 2025-04-09 22:39:27.367000

punk6529: and the slider goes to the left too - 2025-04-09 22:37:38.826000

punk6529: that can't be bought off - 2025-04-09 22:37:30.451000

punk6529: there is a lot of TDH - 2025-04-09 22:37:23.652000

punk6529: i doubt it - 2025-04-09 22:37:15.460000

punk6529: by banding together - 2025-04-09 22:37:13.067000

punk6529: if you say the naka people can get dozens of crap cards in - 2025-04-09 22:37:08.211000

punk6529: it is ok - 2025-04-09 22:36:53.110000

punk6529: if the naka people are super committed to getting 1 card in - 2025-04-09 22:36:50.108000

punk6529: but there are 152 cards per year - 2025-04-09 22:36:40.804000

punk6529: sure - 2025-04-09 22:36:33.115000

punk6529: you get it back - 2025-04-09 22:36:21.590000

punk6529: at any point in time there will be a set of cards to vote on - 2025-04-09 22:35:55.054000

punk6529: and? - 2025-04-09 22:35:32.638000

punk6529: seems unlikely - 2025-04-09 22:33:44.574000

punk6529: someone is going to make a deal with @[BatSoupYum] to get votes in order to get a 0.1ETH kickback? - 2025-04-09 22:33:43.675000

punk6529: there is a lot of TDH in the hands of people who are post economic - 2025-04-09 22:33:08.098000

punk6529: we'll see - 2025-04-09 22:32:20.631000

punk6529: "sell me this pencil" - 2025-04-09 22:31:55.209000

punk6529: one can hang out here and have fun without being on the leaderboard - 2025-04-09 22:30:55.608000

punk6529: also nobody is forced to submit a meme card - 2025-04-09 22:30:25.221000

punk6529: this is like banning the Champion's League and fans in stadiums because only 1 team wins at the end and everyone else loses - 2025-04-09 22:29:00.290000

punk6529: "artists having feelings about art competitions" is not a resolvable problem and I am not sure it is even a problem - 2025-04-09 22:28:37.876000

punk6529: hard to read that as 'I was totally relaxed" - 2025-04-09 22:28:03.808000

punk6529: you just told us we had to ban the group - 2025-04-09 22:27:48.679000

punk6529: .... - 2025-04-09 22:27:41.054000

punk6529: bc he was nervous - 2025-04-09 22:26:35.296000

punk6529: maybe that is true, but moving the conversation to memes-chat will just move the issue and make it worse - 2025-04-09 22:26:18.016000

punk6529: it is counter productive - 2025-04-09 22:25:07.278000

punk6529: which is "The Memes - Main Stage" - 2025-04-09 22:24:59.218000

punk6529: it is designed for chatting about the topic at hand - 2025-04-09 22:24:52.275000

punk6529: who says it is designed for shilling - 2025-04-09 22:24:25.395000

punk6529: :) - 2025-04-09 22:24:07.554000

punk6529: do not have a leaderboard - 2025-04-09 22:24:05.385000

punk6529: even though foundation and superrare and manifold - 2025-04-09 22:24:02.095000

punk6529: how many times i have been shilled art in my DMs - 2025-04-09 22:23:46.863000

punk6529: you may be surprised to hear - 2025-04-09 22:23:39.975000

punk6529: they will shill in memes-chat - 2025-04-09 22:23:30.082000

punk6529: but as @[arsonic] says if we ban conversation here - 2025-04-09 22:23:24.766000

punk6529: bc it is annoying and won't work - 2025-04-09 22:23:10.495000

punk6529: no we should socially guide away from shilling - 2025-04-09 22:23:05.702000

punk6529: feels backwards to be like "sorry, too much conversation in the wrong place" - 2025-04-09 22:22:22.353000

punk6529: now that everyone is here and engaged - 2025-04-09 22:22:09.095000

punk6529: :) - 2025-04-09 22:22:01.450000

punk6529: ignoring me here - 2025-04-09 22:21:59.335000

punk6529: and all of you were in discord and twitter DMs - 2025-04-09 22:21:57.726000

punk6529: when I was here talking to myself - 2025-04-09 22:21:49.478000

punk6529: i am old enough to remember (a few weeks ago) - 2025-04-09 22:21:45.944000

punk6529: all we are going to do is getting in the way of what everyone else wants to naturally do - 2025-04-09 22:21:37.071000

punk6529: the artists are going to feel any less nervous about the leaderboard - 2025-04-09 22:21:22.416000

punk6529: and I am not sure if we move this chat to memes-chat - 2025-04-09 22:21:12.528000

punk6529: i have a hesitation to say "we are not chatting in the approved location" - 2025-04-09 22:21:02.122000

punk6529: here in this chat - 2025-04-09 22:20:49.328000

punk6529: we have good conversations happening - 2025-04-09 22:20:38.800000

punk6529: hmm dunno - 2025-04-09 22:20:34.280000

punk6529: bc it is inevitable - 2025-04-09 22:20:02.082000

punk6529: we need to be comfortable with it - 2025-04-09 22:19:58.708000

punk6529: it will inevitably be part of the process here too - 2025-04-09 22:19:46.217000

punk6529: so this is part of the process - 2025-04-09 22:19:20.066000

punk6529: before we thought it was the right time/place for them - 2025-04-09 22:19:08.669000

punk6529: cross seasons - 2025-04-09 22:19:01.532000

punk6529: who have waited for several months - 2025-04-09 22:18:58.098000

punk6529: we have had meme artist - 2025-04-09 22:18:48.523000

punk6529: yeah, well, having minted 300+ of these, it is natural that some things are more obvious to me earlier and sometimes you have to wait 48 hours to discover them too lol - 2025-04-09 22:18:32.815000

punk6529: my job is the meme card contract - 2025-04-09 22:17:44.082000

punk6529: even if it makes someone sad - 2025-04-09 22:17:33.831000

punk6529: all the way to the left - 2025-04-09 22:17:31.441000

punk6529: with taking that slider - 2025-04-09 22:17:11.269000

punk6529: i have zero compunction - 2025-04-09 22:17:05.718000

punk6529: bc I think it should not be a meme card - 2025-04-09 22:17:01.627000

punk6529: if I want to vote against something - 2025-04-09 22:16:55.563000

punk6529: just the 'voted against it" needed clarification - 2025-04-09 22:16:48.811000

punk6529: oh i know i am not complaining - 2025-04-09 22:16:29.001000

punk6529: would make no difference - 2025-04-09 22:16:19.659000

punk6529: whether it selected monday or wed - 2025-04-09 22:16:10.766000

punk6529: your card is part of years worth of work - 2025-04-09 22:16:04.240000

punk6529: zero downside - 2025-04-09 22:15:52.171000

punk6529: all upside - 2025-04-09 22:15:50.003000

punk6529: it is all positive for the memes - 2025-04-09 22:15:49.095000

punk6529: and since it was 100% obvious that you would get selected on wednesdasy - 2025-04-09 22:15:40.830000

punk6529: it would be cool to mint the topically relevant card - 2025-04-09 22:15:27.668000

punk6529: i thought that on monday in tariff wars, etc - 2025-04-09 22:15:16.819000

punk6529: and anyone can feel whatever they like but putting words in my mouth is different - 2025-04-09 22:14:55.893000

punk6529: there is a negative side to the slider - 2025-04-09 22:14:28.499000

punk6529: if i wanted to "vote against it" - 2025-04-09 22:14:21.793000

punk6529: you are doing the thing that you said others should not do - 2025-04-09 22:14:04.702000

punk6529: nobody voted against it... - 2025-04-09 22:13:49.817000

punk6529: and that is now fixed - 2025-04-09 22:13:18.432000

punk6529: the only thing wrong with the leaderboard IMHO is that you had to take out a calculator to figure out who would win - 2025-04-09 22:13:14.253000

punk6529: but it is important to normalize that it is not - 2025-04-09 22:12:52.099000

punk6529: so it can be surprising - 2025-04-09 22:12:27.218000

punk6529: now everyone sees the process - 2025-04-09 22:12:23.725000

punk6529: and we shifted everything down 2 days - 2025-04-09 22:12:12.099000

punk6529: suddenly a card is topical or @[6529er] made a topical card - 2025-04-09 22:12:02.223000

punk6529: something happens - 2025-04-09 22:11:47.265000

punk6529: you all just don't know we did - 2025-04-09 22:11:45.463000

punk6529: we've done this before - 2025-04-09 22:11:38.401000

punk6529: it would have gotten there in 1-2 rounds - 2025-04-09 22:11:14.982000

punk6529: if it was just a good DF card - 2025-04-09 22:11:05.847000

punk6529: in any case as i discussed in the other wave, that card had a time-sensitivity to it that nothing else in the lineup did - 2025-04-09 22:10:58.410000

punk6529: and I did not even get a co-creator tag. sad! - 2025-04-09 22:09:31.741000

punk6529: so i figured (correctly I think) that people were not mathing right - 2025-04-09 22:09:03.220000

punk6529: it was 70:45 at that point! i did not do anything from 3 to 70 - 2025-04-09 22:08:45.258000

punk6529: usually in these cases @[6529er] was right and I was wrong and I would be like "wait, this card is weird" and he would say "no it is great" and then we would mint it and it turns it it was great and i was a moron - 2025-04-09 22:08:03.133000

punk6529: so @[RegularDad] that is both the direct and the meta answer - 2025-04-09 22:06:50.872000

punk6529: it just meant "yup i am in agreement i have nothing to change" - 2025-04-09 22:05:58.864000

punk6529: it did not mean the "ok" was less enthusiastic - 2025-04-09 22:05:44.098000

punk6529: sometimes he would send to me and I would be like "ok" - 2025-04-09 22:05:30.156000

punk6529: sometimes i would be lobbying @[6529er] hard for or against something or vice-versa - 2025-04-09 22:05:18.136000

punk6529: was like this in SZN1-10 too - 2025-04-09 22:04:57.484000

punk6529: helping curate the next card - 2025-04-09 22:04:45.692000

punk6529: but want to be very clear that people should not read my votes as expressions of anything other than - 2025-04-09 22:04:33.669000

punk6529: feeling my way through it - 2025-04-09 22:04:10.533000

punk6529: something like that - 2025-04-09 22:04:06.161000

punk6529: so i said "ok, this might be interesting to have it with no help from me" particularly since it has a peoples' choice aspect too - 2025-04-09 22:03:55.593000

punk6529: @[Articulate] shot up instantly the first day he posted with no help from me, it was clear it was going to get minted sometime in the near future - 2025-04-09 22:03:23.552000

punk6529: once it had lots of votes and 70M TDH, it was clear it had support for monday but also maybe people were not doing the 24HR math right so i pushed it over the edge and we changed the calculation so it would be more clear - 2025-04-09 22:02:58.826000

punk6529: DF came and posted late - when first posted i gave it 3M TDH to get it visible and then waited for 19 hours to see what people wanted to do - 2025-04-09 22:02:05.519000

punk6529: so people could take a look - 2025-04-09 22:01:31.745000

punk6529: piece was good and was maybe being overlooked so we boosted it enough to get looked at but not enough to get over the line - 2025-04-09 22:01:21.547000

punk6529: also have a bit of a meta-thing going on that I do not want the absolute value of my vote to mean anything. it is not the case that if I vote X or Y or 10X or 100Y it reflects anything. I am trying to make sure the collection is: a) great, b) broadly in the direction the group wants so to take some examples. both @[6529er] and I thought @[Gingerpotter] - 2025-04-09 22:01:00.865000

punk6529: you more or less figured it out in your tweet - 2025-04-09 21:54:57.700000

punk6529: until we can think about it - 2025-04-09 21:54:19.112000

punk6529: so safety-first we did not enable this - 2025-04-09 21:54:16.058000

punk6529: we have not had enough brain cycles to think about this carefully enough - 2025-04-09 21:54:06.994000

punk6529: so someone could drop something malicious, people click on it and get infected regardless of it gets voted - 2025-04-09 21:53:20.560000

punk6529: here there is no pre--check - 2025-04-09 21:52:44.130000

punk6529: we looked at them ourselves, at the html before minting them - 2025-04-09 21:52:37.928000

punk6529: the html cards previously minted - 2025-04-09 21:52:26.104000

punk6529: you don't want someone to put something into the artwork that will hack your computers and steal your jpgs - 2025-04-09 21:52:08.135000

punk6529: peoples' choice! was clearly going to make it so wanted to see that happen (without me) - 2025-04-09 21:50:44.720000

punk6529: polarizing! personally i had told him that I thought the sky could maybe use texture but anyway he has the bg to make his artist choice - 2025-04-09 21:49:36.067000

punk6529: it should be where the submission is - 2025-04-09 21:48:48.821000

punk6529: than "go find another random wave somewhere" - 2025-04-09 21:48:38.347000

punk6529: but I think this is much more likely to work - 2025-04-09 21:48:29.171000

punk6529: yes we can make it somehow more obvious - 2025-04-09 21:48:21.758000

punk6529: for arbitrary code - 2025-04-09 21:48:00.415000

punk6529: need to think carefully about how to make sure we don't create a mechanism - 2025-04-09 21:47:54.792000

punk6529: not imminent - 2025-04-09 21:46:59.659000

punk6529: for them to be displayed here - 2025-04-09 21:46:52.381000

punk6529: will be. but we need to do some things to make it safe - 2025-04-09 21:46:43.630000

punk6529: yes though I think it will be hard to accomplish in practice - 2025-04-09 21:45:00.301000

punk6529: ofc it worked! here is the initial concept - it is instantly recognizable even like this - 2025-04-09 21:44:39.003000

punk6529: the side channel - 2025-04-09 21:43:28.614000

punk6529: i think in the replies to the artwork is the only thing that would work - 2025-04-09 21:43:01.826000

punk6529: but his concept otherwise came fully formed from the oven - 2025-04-09 21:41:09.110000

punk6529: :) - 2025-04-09 21:40:46.125000

punk6529: well, it originally had a "gm" on it - 2025-04-09 21:40:43.740000

punk6529: in both categories there was work that was great and work that we were like 'well, not sure this is going to fit' - 2025-04-09 21:38:36.162000

punk6529: some did not - 2025-04-09 21:38:18.022000

punk6529: some did - 2025-04-09 21:38:14.305000

punk6529: we heavily encouraged artists to do this with us in szn1-szn10 - 2025-04-09 21:38:06.520000

punk6529: 3 at a time, not 3 per season. the 2 left is a bug @[simo] - 2025-04-09 21:36:12.801000

punk6529: pretty sure anyone else should feel fine to do so also - 2025-04-09 21:34:32.259000

punk6529: so if @[6529er] runs drafts by someone for feedback - 2025-04-09 21:34:19.174000

punk6529: and even though I said what I said above on @[6529er] and @[arsonic], this is not actually accurate because both of them have always shared their work with me beforehand for feedback - 2025-04-09 21:34:01.763000

punk6529: leave it for a while and see if it gets traction - 2025-04-09 21:33:22.535000

punk6529: and then drop it - 2025-04-09 21:33:14.671000

punk6529: potentially revise - 2025-04-09 21:33:12.013000

punk6529: discuss the work - 2025-04-09 21:33:03.591000

punk6529: show the work - 2025-04-09 21:32:57.285000

punk6529: but anyone else - 2025-04-09 21:32:55.647000

punk6529: which can be @[6529er] in the reserve case - 2025-04-09 21:32:51.688000

punk6529: is to find someone trusted - 2025-04-09 21:32:41.945000

punk6529: * - 2025-04-09 21:32:28.097000

punk6529: e.g. @[6529er] or @[arsonic] do not need this advice - 2025-04-09 21:32:19.347000

punk6529: the tactical strategy for the artist unless you are sure you have the finger on the pulse of the community - 2025-04-09 21:32:00.395000

punk6529: agree 100% - 2025-04-09 21:31:34.450000

punk6529: nice to see you too! - 2025-04-09 21:29:38.911000

punk6529: ;) - 2025-04-09 21:27:35.381000

punk6529: well yeah! we have the best 2022+ art collection in literally the whole global NFT space. it is literally a 1 in a million type outcome, it is loved, respected, well-curated, etc and then I say "ok, time to hand it over to the anons and hope they don't fuck it up" - 2025-04-09 21:27:32.617000

punk6529: congratulations @[Articulate] - 2025-04-09 21:25:04.105000

punk6529: very very hard in fact - 2025-04-09 21:24:08.602000

punk6529: is not that easy - 2025-04-09 21:24:00.163000

punk6529: having a method they could let go to - 2025-04-09 21:23:57.050000

punk6529: and even if they were - 2025-04-09 21:23:49.990000

punk6529: not many people would be willing to let go - 2025-04-09 21:23:41.296000

punk6529: which should not be underestimated - 2025-04-09 21:23:32.430000

punk6529: I trusted it with The Memes - 2025-04-09 21:23:15.893000

punk6529: but to your substantive point: In TDH We Trust - 2025-04-09 21:22:39.023000

punk6529: you should know better than to listen to that guy - 2025-04-09 21:21:41.715000

punk6529: rekt!!!! - 2025-04-09 21:20:50.408000

punk6529: otherwise some moron is going to get 50K memes nominee rep and bot us with 690 submissions - 2025-04-09 21:19:51.814000

punk6529: the 3 at a time is simply antispam - 2025-04-09 21:19:29.903000

punk6529: so yes to answer your question TDH has to sort it all out - 2025-04-09 21:18:22.168000

punk6529: TDH will be called upon to make harder decisions than these in the future - 2025-04-09 21:18:09.736000

punk6529: the test is of TDH - 2025-04-09 21:17:56.561000

punk6529: the test is not what we can do with limits - 2025-04-09 21:17:53.136000

punk6529: i deliberately took off all limits - 2025-04-09 21:17:41.569000

punk6529: sorry brosef - 2025-04-09 21:17:13.563000

punk6529: we are not going to vote for 100 @[arsonic] cards in a row (even if he submitted 100 cards in a row which he wouldn't anyway) - 2025-04-09 21:16:24.695000

punk6529: and i have pretty close to 100% confidence - 2025-04-09 21:15:59.732000

punk6529: it is clear that the collection would not be as good if we did 100 cards in a row from @[arsonic] or something - 2025-04-09 21:15:38.577000

punk6529: not for some complex game theory of incentives - 2025-04-09 21:15:18.790000

punk6529: primarily because they want them to be good - 2025-04-09 21:15:09.822000

punk6529: yes, though I have an even 'stronger' version of this statement. i think people will curate the memes correctly through a sense of professionalism - 2025-04-09 21:14:54.060000

punk6529: we are on the right track - 2025-04-09 21:14:16.955000

punk6529: like i want pizza tonight and you want steak - 2025-04-09 21:14:05.756000

punk6529: it is normal - 2025-04-09 21:13:55.523000

punk6529: is not a system failure - 2025-04-09 21:13:54.548000

punk6529: things like 10 out of the 100 people would have preferred a different card today - 2025-04-09 21:13:47.372000

punk6529: by this metric we are scoring 100/100 so far - 2025-04-09 21:13:33.079000

punk6529: that will make good decisions in aggregate, on the whole, and over time - 2025-04-09 21:13:14.776000

punk6529: the theory was/is that TDH is generally distributed into intelligent and well-meaning hands - 2025-04-09 21:13:01.657000

punk6529: but overall very very close to what I think we would have done - 2025-04-09 21:11:55.402000

punk6529: maybe a bit more pushing on a couple of designs - 2025-04-09 21:11:43.629000

punk6529: maybe a bit of ordering difference - 2025-04-09 21:11:36.408000

punk6529: i don't think @[6529er] and I would have been much different - 2025-04-09 21:11:30.121000

punk6529: the group picked 5 very good picks - 2025-04-09 21:10:59.994000

punk6529: i have to say the group is very hard on itself - 2025-04-09 21:10:50.890000

punk6529: TDH is doing fine - 2025-04-09 21:10:32.878000

punk6529: lolololol absolutely not - 2025-04-09 21:09:51.417000

punk6529: "Otherwise we just become a group of people taking the piss out of day to day events" not going to happen mostly because it is really hard to pull great immediately time relevant art on the spot :) - 2025-04-09 21:08:15.476000

punk6529: amazing!!! - 2025-04-09 13:09:11.523000

punk6529: great! - 2025-04-09 13:09:03.198000

punk6529: :6529spin: - 2025-04-08 20:56:52.045000

punk6529: yup - 2025-04-08 19:39:52.947000

punk6529: because it makes for more intense tweets - 2025-04-08 19:29:58.136000

punk6529: but he tweets in that way - 2025-04-08 19:29:49.070000

punk6529: he may or may not believe this, I am not saying he does not - 2025-04-08 19:29:44.231000

punk6529: he is partially trolling as always - 2025-04-08 19:29:25.342000

punk6529: just like 1,000 other factors will be relevant over time - 2025-04-08 19:28:00.336000

punk6529: of course "who made the card" is relevant to that discussion - 2025-04-08 19:27:52.727000

punk6529: it is to fill that next spot with the most appropriate card for that next spot - 2025-04-08 19:27:41.406000

punk6529: and so on - 2025-04-08 19:27:23.381000

punk6529: to tell them if their work is good or bad - 2025-04-08 19:27:19.184000

punk6529: the purpose of the meme is not to rate artists - 2025-04-08 19:27:11.434000

punk6529: or worriying even for 1 second if articulate got bumped from a spot - 2025-04-08 19:26:53.402000

punk6529: there is no pathway to excellence that starts with blinding yourself - 2025-04-08 19:26:36.647000

punk6529: the goals are excellence, contribution, public goods, etc - 2025-04-08 19:25:43.815000

punk6529: in 10 years, i would imagine any work being diligenced by ASIs, by humans, getting checked 50 different ways - 2025-04-08 19:25:10.779000

punk6529: the long-term is that this is the most excellent work across any domain that the network wants to highlight - 2025-04-08 19:24:39.347000

punk6529: but even worse it is a conceptual disaster for the long-term - 2025-04-08 19:24:05.443000

punk6529: blind voting would be a disaster in the immediate term - 2025-04-08 19:23:47.118000

punk6529: 100% this would happen - 2025-04-08 19:23:17.327000

punk6529: :) - 2025-04-08 18:25:53.297000

punk6529: and by those, @[maybe]is voting for more DF - 2025-04-08 18:25:48.537000

punk6529: on-chain actions are what drive the network though :) - 2025-04-08 18:25:38.780000

punk6529: stated preference: fight the power revealed preference: subs for DF - 2025-04-08 18:24:11.524000

punk6529: don't worry, if it does not you can delete and we will fix! - 2025-04-08 18:23:20.208000

punk6529: follow me for more incentives tips on IG - 2025-04-08 18:22:26.842000

punk6529: the incentive is that @[maybe] will not feel badly about minting the DF and the outcome is we will have more great artists - 2025-04-08 18:22:16.903000

punk6529: is help find great emerging artists - 2025-04-08 18:21:50.950000

punk6529: the practical thing people who are worried should do - 2025-04-08 18:21:45.523000

punk6529: it is all totally fine imho - 2025-04-08 18:21:35.079000

punk6529: then i waited to see if people 'wanted' it for monday once i saw 70M, i said ok they do and i did the math to make sure it made it and noticed that we need to make the math part of the main stage so everyone else can do it - 2025-04-08 18:21:31.490000

punk6529: i gave it an initial boost so people would see it - 2025-04-08 18:20:46.334000

punk6529: exactly. if it was a regular DF, it would also get minted but would not have been pushed for monday - 2025-04-08 18:20:31.609000

punk6529: exactly. if it was a regular DF, it would also get minted but would not have been pushed for monday - 2025-04-08 18:20:21.485000

punk6529: i think this is a non-issue: 1/ it is fantastic that DF and other well known artists want to drop on the memes, decentralized edition 2/ it is, in a way, a subsidy to other less well known artists as they benefit from being co-droppees on the same curated contract. 3/ i see nothing wrong if well-known artists have a few cards in the memes just like they do in the rare pepes 4/ it of course would be wrong for xcopy or beeple or arsonic were dropping every week but xcopy did not become xcopy by doing stupid things like that 5/ in the event when a theoretical top artist overdoes, we can express our view that they need to cool it by not voting for them #1 every time 6/ #5 is not a real problem I think and it is easily manageable if it becomes one. we will just kindly get giselle an uber home so we can get some rest - 2025-04-08 18:20:04.491000

punk6529: is in fact complaining for the sake of complaining - 2025-04-08 18:14:47.135000

punk6529: by banging giselle in the completely theoretical future where giselle wants to bang you every night - 2025-04-08 18:14:37.124000

punk6529: and complaining preemptively about how worn out you are - 2025-04-08 18:14:14.284000

punk6529: that anyone in this chat has - 2025-04-08 18:14:05.038000

punk6529: is not a real problem - 2025-04-08 18:13:58.678000

punk6529: "I personally am going to get tired of having sex with Giselle every night" - 2025-04-08 18:13:57.674000

punk6529: and give up their spot to someone else - 2025-04-08 18:13:08.880000

punk6529: all the people who do not want to buy a DF card can go over to the unsubscribe button - 2025-04-08 18:13:02.518000

punk6529: "wen Beeple" "gets Beeple to do a card per quarter" "why are you extracing me with Beeple" - 2025-04-08 18:12:35.176000

punk6529: and i would never consider trying to protect myself from "knowing things" - 2025-04-08 18:12:07.939000

punk6529: by being blind to who the artist is - 2025-04-08 18:11:48.698000

punk6529: that 6529er and i did not curate well - 2025-04-08 18:11:41.973000

punk6529: for the extremely obvious reason - 2025-04-08 18:11:32.800000

punk6529: i do not agree with blind voting - 2025-04-08 18:11:06

punk6529: this is complaining for the sake of complaining - 2025-04-08 18:10:46.837000

punk6529: oh come on - 2025-04-08 18:10:22.298000

punk6529: i think so and if something goes wrong she can delete it is ok - 2025-04-08 18:07:21.750000

punk6529: i don't view this as competitive - 2025-04-08 18:06:40.337000

punk6529: why is 'compete' even a relevant concept. it was clearly the most topical card in a way that none of the others are. that card benefits from being selected today. the rest don't - 2025-04-08 18:06:31.092000

punk6529: since you are offering - 2025-04-08 18:03:02.191000

punk6529: and outcome as well - 2025-04-08 18:03:00.162000

punk6529: please show - 2025-04-08 18:02:44.917000

punk6529: what are the incentives - 2025-04-08 18:02:39.975000

punk6529: it should not make any difference. I think chrome/brave (Brave is a chromium browser) is complaining that it does not know how to render it but it is all going to th backend anyway - 2025-04-08 18:00:07.991000

punk6529: Current/24HR TDH fixed - 2025-04-08 17:58:57.197000

punk6529: 9er and I would have made at any other point in The Memes - 2025-04-08 17:58:09.459000

punk6529: reshuffling is exactly the type of decision - 2025-04-08 17:57:54.010000

punk6529: in a way the other ones were not - 2025-04-08 17:57:43.514000

punk6529: the DF card was relevant in time - 2025-04-08 17:57:36.725000

punk6529: this is an imaginary problem we don't have (famous artists dropping constantly) and in the event we had that problem, it is within our power to control it - 2025-04-08 17:57:08.807000

punk6529: weird take - 2025-04-08 17:56:20.947000

punk6529: incredible stuff! - 2025-04-08 17:55:40.880000

punk6529: it is in WINNERS! - 2025-04-07 13:16:29.609000

punk6529: no, you get the slot "back" - 2025-04-07 12:30:03.695000

punk6529: also: gifs - 2025-04-07 12:26:20.534000

punk6529: https://media.tenor.com/AnPSj_h0PgoAAAAC/dancing-cat-dance.gif - 2025-04-07 12:26:14.965000

punk6529: hard refresh on web and the right panel in waves will be much more compact and useful - 2025-04-07 12:25:50.248000

punk6529: and hopefully we stop at that point - 2025-04-07 10:41:48.805000

punk6529: @[simo] @[GelatoGenesis] - 2025-04-07 10:41:42.364000

punk6529: Projected | Current | 24HR - 2025-04-07 10:41:34.117000

punk6529: I think we need all 3 - 2025-04-07 10:41:23.451000

punk6529: we are learning a lot - 2025-04-07 10:41:15.101000

punk6529: it is super interesting! - 2025-04-07 10:41:14.679000

punk6529: so I agree - 2025-04-07 10:40:38.129000

punk6529: and then it changes - 2025-04-07 10:40:33.193000

punk6529: it is the same as 24HR at all points until the last 24 hours lol - 2025-04-07 10:40:24.747000

punk6529: I just think we need one more metric on the metrics: "Projected At Next Vote" - 2025-04-07 10:38:46.420000

punk6529: too - 2025-04-07 10:33:24.900000

punk6529: but I can see the opposite - 2025-04-07 10:33:22.297000

punk6529: and 24 hours how many they have weighted over the last 24 hours - 2025-04-07 10:33:17.116000

punk6529: I think current vote should be how many votes they have currently - 2025-04-07 10:33:07.708000

punk6529: i think our naming is backwards btw - 2025-04-07 10:32:58.076000

punk6529: yes for sure - 2025-04-07 10:32:49.068000

punk6529: but perfectly fine for localized - 2025-04-07 10:31:58.062000

punk6529: i don't think I would use it for anything network based - 2025-04-07 10:31:48.892000

punk6529: 1/ TDH 2/ Rep 3/ Quadratic TDH 4/ per address 5/ per address with some other metric qualification: "per address but you need at least 50K TDH" - 2025-04-07 10:31:34.227000

punk6529: we should let anyone run whatever voting they want - 2025-04-07 10:31:03.786000

punk6529: in localized voting - 2025-04-07 10:30:53.742000

punk6529: sure you can do it - 2025-04-07 10:30:39.134000

punk6529: it is clear which cards are going to get minted, all we are doing is working the order - 2025-04-07 10:28:10.848000

punk6529: :) - 2025-04-07 10:27:43.212000

punk6529: put it into photo finish category - 2025-04-07 10:27:42.630000

punk6529: to see if we can match up current events - 2025-04-07 10:27:26.120000

punk6529: this is absolutely fascinating and fun - 2025-04-07 10:27:16.417000

punk6529: yup - 2025-04-07 04:04:49.357000

punk6529: just showing the current status (if it ended now) - 2025-04-07 04:04:30.275000

punk6529: we need a prediction this is true - 2025-04-07 04:03:44.318000

punk6529: lol - 2025-04-06 21:09:39.425000

punk6529: but maybe perfect to vote on monday i dunno interesting - 2025-04-06 20:50:38.757000

punk6529: yeah i also forgot tbh in the first instance and was like 'perfect for monday' - 2025-04-06 20:50:29.294000

punk6529: i am old enough to remember when @[maybe] wanted me to add utility of some type to the gradients! 😂 - 2025-04-06 20:48:14.726000

punk6529: this - 2025-04-06 20:42:38.433000

punk6529: DarkFam - 2025-04-06 20:34:30.972000

punk6529: but nonetheless his is more time sensitive - 2025-04-06 20:34:28.433000

punk6529: i gave it a boost so people will see it up there, but anyway monday's card was picked on Friday - 2025-04-06 20:33:54.453000

punk6529: yeah might need to add it there @[simo] - 2025-04-06 20:31:21.080000

punk6529: thanks! @[prxt0] - 2025-04-06 20:15:50.120000

punk6529: I would like to say something about voting and The Memes that I will repeat a few times: 1. Memes votes are not about your artwork per se. They are about which should be the next Memes card which is only very loosely if at all correlated to the quality of your art work 2. Votes are going to go up and down and we should not take any of it in any way personally 3. I think the end-state we will link the Stream contract to The Memes main stage. There is going to be a lot of great art that people are going to want to mint and buy that may not be in the 152 The Memes slot and I think this is the solution - 2025-04-06 20:14:29.080000

punk6529: damn bro impressive - 2025-04-06 20:11:52.222000

punk6529: nice - 2025-04-06 20:11:32.789000

punk6529: not for me to do, but happy if others to do it! - 2025-04-06 20:11:14.792000

punk6529: this would be an interesting study. @[Mahan] and @[Lapious] could probably run some analytics on the top 1000 TDH holders - 2025-04-06 20:10:54.125000

punk6529: punished for having to do a bit of offline things - 746 unread messages in memes chat lol - 2025-04-06 20:09:17.719000

punk6529: you need to stop spamming all the waves please - 2025-04-04 16:18:16.522000

punk6529: let us know more from your tests! - 2025-04-04 16:17:52.784000

punk6529: ahahahahahaha commas club! I am well known for my "need commas" requests among the dev team - 2025-04-04 16:17:26.471000

punk6529: v0.1 of My Votes is up. I think we should drop the 0 vote ones and we need a reset button but it is a good start - 2025-04-04 16:12:32.142000

punk6529: 1/ so I have had a very long and hard two weeks. I am treating myself to Martini (tm) tonight. 2/ I think we are totally under control around here and will be back tomorrow in more detail 3/ v0.1 of My Votes is up. I think we should drop the 0 vote ones and we need a reset button but it is a good start - 2025-04-04 16:12:21.436000

punk6529: congratulations @[Rakesh] - 2025-04-04 16:06:32.107000

punk6529: i agree - we are on the right track and we need to continue on this track - 2025-04-03 14:47:44.745000

punk6529: what is he actually talking about? - 2025-04-03 14:46:40.776000

punk6529: for now, we can consider this socially that ok something may not be the choice for The Memes right now but it does not mean it should not be minted somewhere - 2025-04-03 11:20:18.835000

punk6529: at that point it is a win-win-win all around for everyone - 2025-04-03 11:17:53.229000

punk6529: cc: @[simo] @[GelatoGenesis] @[6529er] @[DarrenSRS] @[teexels] @[ragne] @[prxt0] - 2025-04-03 11:17:40.726000

punk6529: I think the end-state (we are just not ready to support it yet technically) is that another contract (either 1/1 or edition or Stream, I need to think about it) is a great alternative outcome for the submissions Like how I could imagine this working is the following 1/ someone submits 2/ for X period (say XX days) is is exclusively for the The Memes 3/ after XX days, another button appears where people can bid/pre-bid etc that they would mint it on the other contract 4/ At any point in time, the artist can say "OK, off we go there" 5/ This to me seems like the end state because there are many pieces that I may think "not the best choice for The Memes tomorrow" but they should be minted and I and/or others might be willing to mint them There are a bunch of other details to be looked at but I think this is where we end up - 2025-04-03 11:15:44.232000

punk6529: just move the slider - 2025-04-03 10:58:33.291000

punk6529: what we have to decide is ~ 150x/year what we want to mint on The Memes - 2025-04-03 10:46:46.945000

punk6529: deciding what art is "good" or "bad" is anyway impossible and we are not trying to do that - 2025-04-03 10:46:35.578000

punk6529: which seems like it is a similar question but it is actually a very different question - 2025-04-03 10:45:51.268000

punk6529: i think it is very very important that we socially construct that we are not voting on "if a piece of art is good or not" because that is not the purpose of this wave. The purpose of this wave is "what should we mint on The Memes contract on the next card" - 2025-04-03 10:45:38.213000

punk6529: there was no greater meaning than "what do we think would be the best fit for Monday" - 2025-04-03 10:44:41.867000

punk6529: every time we made that decision, we were in effect "reallocating votes" - 2025-04-03 10:44:11.161000

punk6529: each week @[6529er] would look at the available cards and make a decision about the next week, based on vibes in the world at large, in CT, in 6529 world and the specific cards ready - 2025-04-03 10:43:47.100000

punk6529: we are just making transparent a process that was happening anyway - 2025-04-03 10:43:08.267000

punk6529: I agree completely! - 2025-04-03 10:42:36.800000

punk6529: intentional! - 2025-04-02 21:34:20.095000

punk6529: we should make this more clear @[prxt0] - 2025-04-02 20:21:55.039000

punk6529: on the list - 2025-04-02 20:21:35.209000

punk6529: treated as an edition of 1000 - 2025-04-02 20:21:19.984000

punk6529: yes - 2025-04-02 20:21:17.652000

punk6529: incredible - 2025-04-02 20:09:50.393000

punk6529: that looks totally sick - 2025-04-02 20:09:40.531000

punk6529: that's it, decentralized curation is CANCELLED! time to delete the wave! - 2025-04-02 19:58:15.765000

punk6529: both sama and dario are saying the same thing - 2025-04-02 19:48:41.349000

punk6529: ASI in 2-3 - 2025-04-02 19:48:36.872000

punk6529: we will have it in a year - 2025-04-02 19:48:33.909000

punk6529: yes it is done internally - 2025-04-02 19:48:30.904000

punk6529: practice your love-y eyes - 2025-04-02 19:48:13.595000

punk6529: we will have AGI within a year - 2025-04-02 19:47:44.899000

punk6529: i genuinely believe that - 2025-04-02 19:47:39.107000

punk6529: window is closed - 2025-04-02 19:47:27.251000

punk6529: the good outcome for the AIs is that they think we are good pets and take good care of us! - 2025-04-02 19:45:21.755000

punk6529: takes notes "immediate ban BSY from Bora Bora network state" Ser, I think you are more like "Nebraska network state" - 2025-04-02 19:42:14.407000

punk6529: yes - 2025-04-02 19:41:35.641000

punk6529: it is a perpetual problem with dynamic NFTs - 2025-04-02 19:27:05.858000

punk6529: yes that is it. we need to think how to manage this - 2025-04-02 19:26:56.672000

punk6529: all depends on how many P0 minted - 2025-04-02 19:24:00.956000

punk6529: "no internet service has ever died from too much demand" - 2025-04-02 19:23:46.240000

punk6529: you are right. I have been thinking about it since it dropped. gave it a boost to see if we can get more attention on it but I agree it is very good - 2025-04-02 18:54:42.728000

punk6529: can't believe we are such elitists - 2025-04-02 18:52:54.630000

punk6529: why are we worried about this? We have gotten plenty of good artists to mint and I am not going around promising or hinting at promising that people can mint cards with XXXETH "market cap". very few artists can achieve those market caps and almost every artist that drops with us achieves a higher "market cap" for their card than if they would have minted by themselves - 2025-04-02 18:30:33.997000

punk6529: Let me answer this question a few different ways: 1/ Everyone "smart about NFTs" has told me this every SZN since SZN1. (OK, it is being good so far now we should stop minting to "preserve value" or "because the NFTs are not going to be good anymore") and I am pretty sure we are the only meaningful collection that spent the whole bear market up in aggregate vs mint ( Even before your buys @[DGMD]), whereas almost every other art piece one could have could 2022 to present has literally zero bid on it. I have no idea what will happen to the price in the future, but so far the "this is going to be a disaster" people in this specific case have been wrong. 2/ The reason of course is that nobody has the ability to stop "supply". When an artist mints 50 pieces on FND and then "stops minting to preserve supply" which of the following two things happens: a) everyone kills themselves to push the price of those 50 things to the moon OR b) There are nonetheless 50,000 other NFTs minted that day and 5,000,000 meme coins and the market attention moves elsewhere, everyone forgets the artist and their collection exists and the standing bid is literally 0.000 I don't think you can apply The Lost Robbies or XCOPY SR12 logic to activity in the 2020s 2/ Who is the most valued, desirable and internet-native artist? XCOPY I think. Which 1/1 artists mints the most pieces by far, on every platform, in every format, at every supply? Also XCOPY. Is the fact that there is only 1/1 artist who has a constantly liquid and actively and high market cap is also the highest supply one: a) some random weird data point that we should discard OR b) because he understands the medium is a scaled, networked medium and to succeed you need scale, you need onramps not just for fancy pants collectors like me who are willing to spend 300 ETH for a 1/1 but also constantly lower priced sub 1-ETH entry points 3/ What is the highest valued edition collection in the world by far: Rare Pepes How many tokens did the rare pepes mints? 1774 Is the fact that the absolutely massive RP collection is the highest valued edition collection by an order of magnitude a) some random weird data point that we should discard OR b) because RPs understood the medium is a scaled, networked medium and to succeed you need scale, you need onramps not just for fancy pants collectors like me who are willing to spend xxx ETH for a 1/1 RP but also constantly lower priced sub 1-ETH entry points The Memes are explicitly modeled on the Rare Pepes, to offer inexpensive and expensive entry points, both on a per piece level and a set level. Why? Because it is fun. I enjoy collecting NFTs, having some of these mechanics as in the RPs make the RP more fun for me, so when I see a good idea, I implement it. 4/ Cultural assets like NFTS follow power laws that are downstream of attention. We are currently playing for which one makes into the global power laws in the future (nobody has so far). Are we done? Have we made it? Do they know us from Hong Kong to Zambia; from Norway to Egypt? Nobody knows us at all. Barely anyone knows what an NFT is. The space is rudimentary, tiny, niche and most people in the space are nowhere near ambitious enough IMHO 5/ It is hard to find 3 good NFTs per week, relevant to our mission? Is this some type of trick question? When SuperRare was THE ELITE highly gate-kept art platform, did anyone say "they should not mint 3 NFTs per week, it is too many?" The average quality of the NFTs in The Memes was always high but I think on the margin it is going up over time. 6/ What about blockchains, network states TDH, etc. I only allow myself (internal principle) in the context of a discussion like this to talk about things that do exist. What does TDH do today? It gives you a vote on the next card and it moves you up in the line to mint it. We will all discover together what if anything it does in the future noting that anyone can use it for whatever purpose they like. 7/ Having said all that, I do not care at all if anyone buys a Meme Card, let alone "a szn set or full set". Everyone has the opportunity to decide 3x/week in 2025 if a specific meme card from a specific artist with a specific CC0 JPG in the broader context of what we are trying to do (promote decentralization) is worth more to them to see in their wallet than 0.06529 ETH. How am I supposed to know for anyone other than myself what is going to make them happier? 0.06529, a Meme Card, a dinner out, a meme coin, AVAX, the S&P500, a nice bottle of wine. I don't know, I can't know, I have no interest in knowing, we believe in maximum freedom around here including of course what economic or non economic decisions people want to make with their money 8/ By the same token as #7, we have an approach, we are going to continue this approach, if other people think other approaches are better, great! They should support those other approaches of other collections with their time or money and we will still be good friends! I am an NFT maxi, I support anyone doing things in the NFT space and I am happy for anyone's success (and even failed good faith experiments) 9/ I am 100% transparent about what I am trying to accomplish in the NFT / social coordination space. All are welcome to participate conceptually, economically not at all or a lot or anything in between. It is all good. 10/ tl;dr - most NFT collections are far too small, we are playing to win, not to not-lose, we have no idea if we are right (nobody else does either) - we will only find out in retrospect, you should buy a meme card if it makes you happy and it is all good regardless! - 2025-04-02 18:24:17.004000

punk6529: you will see if you are subscribed and what "position in line" you are - 2025-04-02 12:55:02.962000

punk6529: look on the subscription tab for your problem - 2025-04-02 12:54:53.501000

punk6529: nice gradient! - 2025-04-02 12:54:38.200000

punk6529: big day! - 2025-04-02 12:54:33.787000

punk6529: 1/ via zero-knowledge proofs 2/ with a user selected option if they want to reveal themselves to be in the metadata 3/ what do I mean? what am I talking about? many countries have significant restrictions on speech - not just Russia or Turkey but even in some ways UK/EU or say lese-majesty rules in Thailand. We should allow for the option for someone to vote for a card without them being doxxed permanently that they voted for it 4/ obviously this is not todays problem, the cards are innocent but more for the future 5/ @[GelatoGenesis] @[6529er] @[prxt0] @[simo] - 2025-04-02 12:54:20.103000

punk6529: like the absolutely best way to do it would be - 2025-04-02 12:52:14.425000

punk6529: if there needs to be, pace full censorship resistance, in the future deniability that it is you - 2025-04-02 12:52:05.530000

punk6529: is if we do it for all - 2025-04-02 12:51:44.968000

punk6529: the only question I wonder - 2025-04-02 12:51:42.177000

punk6529: we can do a merkle tree of them - 2025-04-02 12:51:30.898000

punk6529: yes we should not use nyancat in general - 2025-04-02 12:51:05.227000

punk6529: totally ready to get drunk and make bad decisions - 2025-04-02 12:50:36.783000

punk6529: lowercase m i think - 2025-04-02 12:46:57.460000

punk6529: yes it is awesome - 2025-04-02 12:45:27.822000

punk6529: true - @[6529er] I think this is a good idea to add a field to the metadata with the voters - 2025-04-02 12:43:22.317000

punk6529: really would be\ - 2025-04-02 12:41:17.463000

punk6529: lolololololol @[simo] try this for fun and go away to get a coffee and you will still be scrolling - we need to go to direct reference :) - 2025-04-01 21:34:57.721000

punk6529: because obviously "me, on a Time magazine cover" has been done many many times before - 2025-04-01 21:24:51.765000

punk6529: it is worth reflection - 2025-04-01 21:24:34.981000

punk6529: is fine, but i think it is adjacent to a sharper concept - 2025-04-01 21:24:12.841000

punk6529: separately from IP issues, :ah, this is Times magazine, highlighting us" - 2025-04-01 21:23:51.115000

punk6529: it can also contain a trademark question - 2025-04-01 21:22:32.252000

punk6529: though to the degree that the image may also include a trademark - 2025-04-01 21:22:21.888000

punk6529: it is primarily a copyright question - 2025-04-01 21:22:08.737000

punk6529: though it could overlap with a trademark question - 2025-04-01 21:20:23.682000

punk6529: exactly - 2025-04-01 21:20:16.365000

punk6529: it is not a trademark question - 2025-04-01 21:20:00.419000

punk6529: for the benefit of everyone, whether you print or not is not really relevant to the analysis. the analysis is whether you have the right to put that specific image into the public domain - 2025-04-01 21:19:51.867000

punk6529: i will revert post analysis lol - 2025-04-01 20:52:20.842000

punk6529: but ofc i generally agree - 2025-04-01 20:50:58.894000

punk6529: i don't think the issue is that the dev team can't reproduce it! I think they are well aware of it! - 2025-04-01 20:50:53.677000

punk6529: so the top 40 who voted for the card will be in a wave and vote to do something with the half the artists proceeds? and what is the multi-SZN aspect - 2025-04-01 20:50:31.440000

punk6529: end to end disaster - 2025-04-01 20:49:24.834000

punk6529: also need to pray to the randomization gods that they get into pepe x phase 0 - 2025-04-01 20:49:18.169000

punk6529: down bad - 2025-04-01 20:48:33.464000

punk6529: Be me Build subscriptions to help people not miss mints Miss half of SZN8 for two family members because I am redacted Get caught up to end of SZN9 Be Happy Proceed to miss all of SZN10 WTF - 2025-04-01 20:48:10.919000

punk6529: 1/ i do not want compliance check to be post selection. it should be pre selection otherwise you are effectively adding another decision-maker and the vote is fake. We have to do the work in advance. We have plenty of time. if we are not sure, we keep a card from minting here until we check it out. the post vote compliance check people (in theory) are anyway @[teexels] @[6529er] and me. we are not going to get any smarter once the vote is over 2/ i think there should be no social pressure against withdrawing, resubmitting and revoting. if we like a card and are working to improve it as a group we will vote it back up - 2025-04-01 20:46:41.494000

punk6529: this is for @[prxt0] and @[simo] - scrolling totally broken on iOS. top priority rest of week - 2025-04-01 20:44:16.484000

punk6529: on his buys - 2025-04-01 20:43:32.354000

punk6529: need @[DGMD] to turn back the clock - 2025-04-01 20:43:30.392000

punk6529: down so bad - 2025-04-01 20:43:02.727000

punk6529: szn 10 - 2025-04-01 20:42:59.677000

punk6529: went in to subscribe and realized that I someone once again missed a whole szn - 2025-04-01 20:42:56.404000

punk6529: well now you know one of the accounts i keep for a family member - 2025-04-01 20:42:28.822000

punk6529: imagine bring home kimchi and saying 'TDH did this" she will swoon - 2025-04-01 19:52:57.693000

punk6529: shift-refresh and like a magic fairy it will appear - 2025-04-01 19:51:24.612000

punk6529: but I am sure @[6529er] will deliver - 2025-04-01 19:51:04.472000

punk6529: this is obviously not going to be it because this version is cringe - 2025-04-01 19:50:51.396000

punk6529:  - 2025-04-01 19:50:28.385000

punk6529: ahahaha so earlier today in chatgpt - 2025-04-01 19:50:24.108000

punk6529: exactly - 2025-04-01 19:49:46.629000

punk6529: and I like it - 2025-04-01 19:46:46.148000

punk6529: i just have been thinking about it all day - 2025-04-01 19:46:42.128000

punk6529: this is not related to the above discussion - 2025-04-01 19:46:32.174000

punk6529: "secured by TDH" - 2025-04-01 19:46:26.013000

punk6529: other concept, trying how it feels on the tongue - 2025-04-01 19:46:19.444000

punk6529: something like that seems plausible - tagging in @[6529er] who is a typographer expert also - 2025-04-01 19:45:56.311000

punk6529: yeah - would be safer imho if it was somehow differently. the concept is OK, but I think it could be pushed further - why not push to a design that becomes "our own" and can be rememed, reused safely. - 2025-04-01 19:40:17.339000

punk6529: yes might be worth checking this somehow - 2025-04-01 19:31:42.744000

punk6529: can you explain this please @[SQUARE_PIXEL] - 2025-04-01 19:31:17.358000

punk6529: "I don't see the description on my submission page. So sharing it here that people know that this is a Meme Card about doing things together. First community driven Meme Card to do things (tm) MEME Magazine is looking for highly aligned Meme Maxis to drop a card in every SZN and fund Meme related projects. Top 40 TDH Voters will access a private wave to share ideas and vote on proposals how to spend 50% of the funds. (Increasing with edition sizes) Top 6 TDH Voters receive a free AD of the Meme Card. First proposal is funding huge Naka paintings around the world." - 2025-04-01 19:30:51.799000

punk6529: You will note that there is FAQ up now right here in Main Stage! Use it! - 2025-04-01 19:25:56.351000

punk6529: You will note that there is FAQ up now right here in Main Stage! Use it! - 2025-04-01 19:24:11.021000

punk6529: yes this is one of the issues with the simple solution - 2025-04-01 14:19:41.928000

punk6529:  @[ragne] @[simo] minor misalignment - 2025-04-01 14:18:47.068000

punk6529: great, all good - 2025-04-01 14:08:12.907000

punk6529: @[simo] or @[prxt0] - 2025-04-01 14:07:55.674000

punk6529: we need to figure it out - 2025-04-01 14:01:34.656000

punk6529: we have lots of tools including temporary negative pre-voting - 2025-04-01 14:01:30.890000

punk6529: this type of cringe-y stuff will backfire on you - 2025-04-01 14:00:42.135000

punk6529: ser, too much shilling. chill out - 2025-04-01 14:00:28.800000

punk6529: so good - 2025-04-01 13:59:58.973000

punk6529: they should be told to stop shilling openly - 2025-04-01 13:59:46.299000

punk6529: before nuking - 2025-04-01 13:59:23.338000

punk6529: i kindof feel we probably also need something like a time out - 2025-04-01 13:59:20.088000

punk6529: good question - we need to decide - 2025-04-01 13:56:28.109000

punk6529: good idea @[simo] - 2025-04-01 13:52:28.793000

punk6529: yes it is very good - 2025-04-01 13:50:31.901000

punk6529: yes it is coming - 2025-04-01 13:36:12.231000

punk6529: he he - 2025-04-01 09:23:01.010000

punk6529: this is the story of everything in life - 2025-04-01 08:29:51.652000

punk6529: lolololololol - 2025-04-01 08:29:45.324000

punk6529: it is doing a lot of polling right now. we are changing in the coming weeks to web sockets which I think will improve the issue - 2025-04-01 08:26:53.087000

punk6529: @[simo] not as important as some other things but when you can, can you make the tabs URL-referenceable  - 2025-04-01 08:05:51.964000

punk6529: yes, rolling - 2025-04-01 08:03:47.908000

punk6529: it is great but might the message be more powerful if it was not just female naked bodies but male too? - 2025-03-31 22:33:08.714000

punk6529: Memes: Hot or Not - 2025-03-31 22:31:05.147000

punk6529: @[simo] @[GelatoGenesis] yup this is needed - 2025-03-31 22:28:56.730000

punk6529: seems reasonable - 2025-03-31 22:28:27.052000

punk6529: in any case, I think we 'under supply' a bit and are slow upward and fast downward on edition size - 2025-03-31 22:28:24.089000

punk6529: and we will learn along the way - 2025-03-31 22:27:03.093000

punk6529: but that will take time - 2025-03-31 22:26:39.433000

punk6529: to make technical decisions as a group - 2025-03-31 22:26:13.906000

punk6529: in time we will build up network capacity - 2025-03-31 22:26:08.679000

punk6529: once there is a base out there - 2025-03-31 22:25:57.288000

punk6529: to get a v1 out someone is going to have to make a decision - 2025-03-31 22:25:26.266000

punk6529: and block timing and so on - 2025-03-31 22:25:08.029000

punk6529: but we are not ready to vote on block size - 2025-03-31 22:25:02.013000

punk6529: so we will talk about all these things - 2025-03-31 22:24:42.766000

punk6529: I am on the edge of my abilities - 2025-03-31 22:24:09.822000

punk6529: bc with all due respect to our community members the number of them who can model a complete blockchain that won't collapse on itself is "not very many" - 2025-03-31 22:23:53.794000

punk6529: the white paper is not amenable to "voting" - 2025-03-31 22:23:26.174000

punk6529: for the blockchain to work there are a lot of quite complex interlocking parameters - 2025-03-31 22:23:15.476000

punk6529: re discussion ofc - 2025-03-31 22:23:01.220000

punk6529: they are measurable and transparent - 2025-03-31 22:21:20.917000

punk6529: but subs are real - 2025-03-31 22:20:50.290000

punk6529: even a gas war on a card or two does not mean anything - 2025-03-31 22:20:40.183000

punk6529: hard to gauge what sustained organic demand from mints - 2025-03-31 22:20:32.989000

punk6529: no need to spam memes chat pls - 2025-03-31 22:19:42.736000

punk6529: to gauge underlying demand - 2025-03-31 22:19:25.112000

punk6529: that we did not have before - 2025-03-31 22:19:18.862000

punk6529: subs are a very very powerful tool - 2025-03-31 22:19:15.122000

punk6529: but not tonight :) - 2025-03-31 22:18:27.209000

punk6529: yeah i will make an example - 2025-03-31 22:18:21.058000

punk6529: scroll up for formula - 2025-03-31 22:17:45.652000

punk6529: if ETH prices get too high (whatever that means), I would lean more group buying than cutting mint price - 2025-03-31 22:17:35.191000

punk6529: not in USD - 2025-03-31 22:16:23.265000

punk6529: punks are punks and they very clearly trade in ETH - 2025-03-31 22:16:21.447000

punk6529: feels very boomer, very cringe - 2025-03-31 22:16:07.067000

punk6529: and I don't want to fix price in USD - 2025-03-31 22:15:59.257000

punk6529: i think NFTs are mostly ETH denominated, not USD denominated - 2025-03-31 22:14:52.999000

punk6529: there is the same amount of ETH available at al ltimes - 2025-03-31 22:14:38.844000

punk6529: not sure it is a concern in either direction - 2025-03-31 22:14:28.818000

punk6529: is clear - 2025-03-31 22:14:04.545000

punk6529: whereas "price is always the same" but we adjust to demand by increasing or decreasing edition size - 2025-03-31 22:13:58.545000

punk6529: like i think it will confuse the collectors - 2025-03-31 22:13:34.993000

punk6529: i prefer to adjust the edition size. i think it becomes very confusing to model to adjust both - 2025-03-31 22:13:19.347000

punk6529: whether the .5 should be .4 or whatever i dunno need to think about it - 2025-03-31 22:12:49.966000

punk6529: the 100% I am sure of - 2025-03-31 22:12:27.308000

punk6529: and 48% of the increase or whatever - 2025-03-31 22:12:19.448000

punk6529: so it is something like we do 101% of the drop in subs - 2025-03-31 22:12:05.058000

punk6529: plus szn multiplier will take it down a bit more - 2025-03-31 22:11:47.723000

punk6529: if it is under-subbed - 2025-03-31 22:11:25.050000

punk6529: if it is over subbed, as above - 2025-03-31 22:11:17.596000

punk6529: next epoch we do it again - 2025-03-31 22:11:11.261000

punk6529: so you probably end up with edition size going up by 22 cards for the next 6 drops - 2025-03-31 22:10:52.138000

punk6529: SZN Multipler will take a bit of that back bc it goes down every day - 2025-03-31 22:10:21.191000

punk6529: we say let's add 25 cards so Epoch Multiplier to get 25 more subs - 2025-03-31 22:10:08.139000

punk6529: there are consistently 350 subs - 2025-03-31 22:09:39.799000

punk6529: there are 300 cards available to mint - 2025-03-31 22:09:34.115000

punk6529: Epoch multipler starts at 1.0. ignore SZN multiplier for a second but it slowly pushes down the edition size during the SZN but lets ignore - 2025-03-31 22:09:25.045000

punk6529: here - 2025-03-31 22:07:59.760000

punk6529: just use the DM feature - it is easier - 2025-03-31 22:07:58.145000

punk6529: yes - 2025-03-31 22:04:46.416000

punk6529: I want it to be algorithmic. I think this is very important. It goes up slowly and comes down quickly. only question is if there is some exceptional circumstances e..g. i dunno beyonce wants to do a card with us that we would override, but I dunno. that is a benefit of course to be able to override (by TDH vote ofc) but it is also cognitive complexity vs the algo - 2025-03-31 22:03:44.649000

punk6529: @[teexels] @[6529er] - 2025-03-31 22:02:17.174000

punk6529: so 335 for Wed - 2025-03-31 22:02:06.407000

punk6529: **Edition Size Formula** **Definitions**: - Nakomoto Threshold: 300 - SZNs: 4 per year, approximately 1 quarter in length - SZN multiplier: 1.1x (first card), dropping linearly to 1.0 (last card) - Epoch: 2 weeks, 6 meme cards - Epoch Multiplier:  A multiplier derived by performance of last epoch.  Starts at 1.0 - Edition Limit: 310  - Final Card Edition Limit: 305 - 6529 Research: A network voted account that promotes research - Available Edition Size: Cards available to mint - Excess Subs: (Subscriptions less Available Edition Size), averaged over the epoch **Card Edition Calculator** - SZN starts with the following calculation: Final Card Edition Limit x Epoch Multiplier x SZN multiplier - This means that the first card in a SZN is 335 (if Epoch Multiplier is 1) - After each epoch, if: - Excess Subs > 0, then increase edition size by Excess Subs * 0.5 (through the Epoch Multiplier) - Excess Subs <0, then decrease edition size by Excess Subs (through the Epoch Multiplier but with a floor of 1) - Any unminted cards go to 6529 Research - 2025-03-31 22:01:37.090000

punk6529: something like this - 2025-03-31 22:01:32.989000

punk6529: assume it does not touch on their copyrighted characters, trademark etc - 2025-03-31 21:46:47.458000

punk6529: no objection in principle - 2025-03-31 21:46:38.443000

punk6529: "There is a New Thing (tm) and I don't like it" - 2025-03-31 21:46:25.479000

punk6529: most people are like that - 2025-03-31 21:46:00.981000

punk6529: i guess it makes sense - 2025-03-31 21:45:51.888000

punk6529:  - 2025-03-31 21:45:37.953000

punk6529: turns out a lot of artist are - 2025-03-31 21:45:34.537000

punk6529: nfts are not art - 2025-03-31 21:44:25.531000

punk6529: urban art wasn't art - 2025-03-31 21:44:19.780000

punk6529: pop art wasn't art - 2025-03-31 21:44:15.378000

punk6529: impressionism wasn't art - 2025-03-31 21:44:08.113000

punk6529: ofc this always happens - 2025-03-31 21:44:03.648000

punk6529: within a specific framework of "What It Means To Be An Artists (tm)" - 2025-03-31 21:43:48.667000

punk6529: but it is all a very specific type of conventional openness - 2025-03-31 21:43:32.046000

punk6529: I had this vague idea that they were weighted towards openness - 2025-03-31 21:43:23.777000

punk6529: just how boomers artists are on average - 2025-03-31 21:42:56.941000

punk6529: I did not realize that until a few years ago - 2025-03-31 21:42:49.862000

punk6529: Artists: a) hate AI! b) hate NFTs that will save them for AI - 2025-03-31 21:42:38.806000

punk6529: imagine! maybe NFTs have a point after all in the world of AI! - 2025-03-31 21:42:23.374000

punk6529: 330 - 2025-03-31 21:41:42.711000

punk6529: "Banish to the shadowlands" will be our next easy button - @[simo] - 2025-03-31 21:41:33.771000

punk6529: I wouldn't be mad at him - 2025-03-31 21:40:24.394000

punk6529: let's just say if sama wanted to promote the memes to 400M people at no cost to me - 2025-03-31 21:40:20.315000

punk6529: while the combined value of our all cutesy family photos ghiblified images is $0 - 2025-03-31 21:39:50.024000

punk6529: and $x,xxx,xxx + in the future - 2025-03-31 21:39:29.152000

punk6529: and is there any doubt if there were original 1/1 SG Ghibli NFTs they would go $xxx,xxxx now - 2025-03-31 21:39:22.315000

punk6529: only SG can drop SG NFTs and I dunno plush dolls - 2025-03-31 21:38:54.866000

punk6529: the trademark protects you there - 2025-03-31 21:38:40.830000

punk6529: drop movie, merch, NFTs - 2025-03-31 21:38:35.019000

punk6529: I just got a few billions of dollars of free publicity - 2025-03-31 21:38:20.115000

punk6529: I would be ecstatic - 2025-03-31 21:38:10.345000

punk6529: if I was running SG - 2025-03-31 21:37:59.325000

punk6529: or are @[arsonic] NFTs more valuable bc SGT Pepe has been around the NFT space - 2025-03-31 21:37:41.844000

punk6529: is @[arsonic] being abused by anyone because of this - 2025-03-31 21:37:19.170000

punk6529: every single 6529 NFT has renounced its copyright claims right? - 2025-03-31 21:37:01.854000

punk6529: the interview was not about this was it? it was about some really creepy old fashioned "AI' stuff - 2025-03-31 21:36:38.357000

punk6529: this cannot come out of an LLM - 2025-03-31 21:36:14.639000

punk6529: for example: provenance identity community - 2025-03-31 21:36:12.813000

punk6529: so the correct thing to do for artists is to figure out what does work in this world - 2025-03-31 21:35:48.929000

punk6529: society is going to choose: "superhuman god on earth" - 2025-03-31 21:35:03.720000

punk6529: between "a super human god on earth" and "completely borderline copyright claims" - 2025-03-31 21:34:50.021000

punk6529: with all due respect to artists, this is suicide - 2025-03-31 21:33:53.700000

punk6529: and rightfully were allowed to copy the "anime style" - 2025-03-31 21:33:05.849000

punk6529: presumably they had previously seen anime - 2025-03-31 21:32:51.738000

punk6529: but SG anime did not come virgin birth from the heavens - 2025-03-31 21:32:44.676000

punk6529: pun intended - 2025-03-31 21:32:31.405000

punk6529: sure, they developed a trademark aesthetic - 2025-03-31 21:32:17.820000

punk6529: this is fair and appropriate. obviously SG did not invent anime. they saw some anime before them and copied that right? - 2025-03-31 21:32:10.842000

punk6529: you see, world peace is nigh - 2025-03-31 21:31:10.103000

punk6529: so far at least - 2025-03-31 21:30:32.374000

punk6529: nor have they asserted one AFAIK - 2025-03-31 21:30:30.492000

punk6529: but I am not sure they have a copyright claim - 2025-03-31 21:30:13.069000

punk6529: for example - 2025-03-31 21:30:03.750000

punk6529: one should not make the Ghibliator app - 2025-03-31 21:30:00.386000

punk6529: i think they logically have trademark protection - 2025-03-31 21:29:45.118000

punk6529: regardless of the above - 2025-03-31 21:29:29.406000

punk6529: and fwiw in Japan it is legal to train AIs on copyrighted content - 2025-03-31 21:29:25.682000

punk6529: I don't think they actually have a copyright on pastel, cute anime - 2025-03-31 21:28:35.313000

punk6529: i mean as much as SG is great - 2025-03-31 21:28:19.328000

punk6529: what are the repercussions you imagine should have happened? - 2025-03-31 21:28:04.857000

punk6529: all good! - 2025-03-31 21:26:40.362000

punk6529: not allowe - 2025-03-31 21:25:53.365000

punk6529: imagine trying to make a movie called "minted" and not be "mintface" - 2025-03-31 21:25:49.055000

punk6529: sue them! - 2025-03-31 21:25:07.560000

punk6529: no AOS, no wonder they thought NFTs were NGMI - 2025-03-31 21:24:59.891000

punk6529: though I guess we do also have a random Trump Liberation Day factor floating out there - 2025-03-31 21:24:24.243000

punk6529: any time normies get ultra triumphant that something crypto is really dead, you are about to get rich - 2025-03-31 21:23:24.651000

punk6529: fuck yeah. bottom is in! - 2025-03-31 21:22:49.215000

punk6529: exactly - 2025-03-31 21:22:15.778000

punk6529: eactly - 2025-03-31 21:22:13.226000

punk6529: things I trust the plurality of TDH will never do - 2025-03-31 21:21:28.186000

punk6529: sweet - 2025-03-31 21:20:50.498000

punk6529: oligarch! - 2025-03-31 21:20:20.716000

punk6529: mailing was never actually important to be honest! in any case, the only way in now is via here! - 2025-03-31 21:19:42.480000

punk6529: you can DM him - 2025-03-31 21:18:55.360000

punk6529: oh web may be fixed - 2025-03-31 21:18:15.759000

punk6529: anyway be prepared in the future to hear how you are the exclusionary high TDH elite who do not like decentralization! - 2025-03-31 21:18:01.923000

punk6529: entry to sam spratt world is several ETH - 2025-03-31 21:17:23.200000

punk6529: and on web @[simo] @[prxt0] - 2025-03-31 21:14:58.744000

punk6529: https://x.com/punk6529/status/1906816253823791200 - 2025-03-31 21:14:11.075000

punk6529: https://x.com/punk6529/status/1906815735382352335 - 2025-03-31 21:13:38.598000

punk6529: here we are excluding everyone again from our very high priced project - 2025-03-31 21:12:52.466000

punk6529: he means well, he is a good guy and his other tweet was fine, but still lol - 2025-03-31 21:12:29.408000

punk6529: we are a country club! - 2025-03-31 21:11:01.033000

punk6529: wea re so back! - 2025-03-31 21:10:55.216000

punk6529: https://x.com/muzkmuzkmuzk/status/1906771082268512307 - 2025-03-31 21:10:49.944000

punk6529: !!! - 2025-03-31 17:54:59.532000

punk6529: oh right, that is the trump thing right? well, anyway lol nobody is going to confuse me for trump - 2025-03-31 17:49:42.799000

punk6529: OK we are semi-public - the thread is out and done. Did not want to give more aggressive instructions to people to drop a Meme Card to give the team some time to keep tweaking site performance. We are OK for now on pipeline. The ones motivated enough to read to the end of the thread and find us, will https://x.com/punk6529/status/1906753171751412006 - 2025-03-31 17:40:31.420000

punk6529: OK we are semi-public - the thread is out and done. Did not want to give more aggressive instructions to people to drop a Meme Card to give the team some time to keep tweaking site performance. We are OK for now on pipeline. The ones motivated enough to read to the end of the thread and find us, will https://x.com/punk6529/status/1906753171751412006 - 2025-03-31 17:40:23.794000

punk6529: congrats @[arsonic] - 2025-03-31 16:00:23.249000

punk6529: great job everyone - 2025-03-31 16:00:05.927000

punk6529:  - 2025-03-31 15:59:21.932000

punk6529: I have to say I am mildly pleased with myself that the voting system with the 24 hour vote is quite good  - 2025-03-31 15:59:03.726000

punk6529: counting down the last 5 minutes - 2025-03-31 15:55:13.473000

punk6529: it is a historical moment everyone - 2025-03-31 15:55:06.840000

punk6529: will be good to have this both ways - 2025-03-31 15:45:40.296000

punk6529: thanks for the clarification - 2025-03-31 15:45:34.825000

punk6529: sweet - 2025-03-31 15:44:01.548000

punk6529: i prefer that I was not a large voter! - 2025-03-31 15:32:14.992000

punk6529: as you can see, both you and @[Rakesh] received 690,420 votes from me :punkshake: - 2025-03-31 15:30:52.749000

punk6529: great job everyone - 2025-03-31 15:29:57.480000

punk6529: graet job everyone - 2025-03-31 15:29:21.380000

punk6529: OK we are locked it - 2025-03-31 15:29:21.074000

punk6529: and @[6529er] we can design a great page there - 2025-03-30 20:59:42.696000

punk6529: congrats! - 2025-03-30 20:58:46.584000

punk6529: yeah we need a built in explainer here somewhere in the design @[ragne] @[simo] that they click and get a modal - 2025-03-30 20:57:05.897000

punk6529: you should ask each of them explicitly imho. if they all give you permission then you can leave it up. if not, you should take it down. - 2025-03-30 20:47:35.236000

punk6529: @[prxt0] - 2025-03-30 20:34:54.009000

punk6529: it is fascinating to watch. i am figuratively and literally eating popcorn today and watching - 2025-03-30 20:33:14.561000

punk6529: the pipeline takes time to build - 2025-03-30 20:32:30.814000

punk6529: they will build up over time - 2025-03-30 20:32:12.679000

punk6529: you really love to see it - 2025-03-30 20:25:15.415000

punk6529: yes this is early days - i have not even tweeted once about it - 2025-03-30 20:21:24.043000

punk6529: indeed - 2025-03-30 20:20:35.364000

punk6529: Catching up with the thread - the one thing that is for sure is that submitting your work does NOT make it CC0. We cannot treat the submissions as CC0. The work becomes CC0 when it is minted and of course the artist is paid for their work. CC0 is not about taking work for free from people but paying them to release it into the public domain. This is unambiguous! - 2025-03-30 20:10:47.624000

punk6529: anything going on today - 2025-03-30 20:06:11.283000

punk6529: yo - 2025-03-30 20:06:06.854000

punk6529: be annoying enough that they bond together against you drop mic send them a bill for couples therapy - 2025-03-29 23:14:25.663000

punk6529: should be visible to all once they are connected - 2025-03-29 23:13:42.703000

punk6529: "have you considered this from the perspective of a surgeon?" - 2025-03-29 23:13:14.347000

punk6529: yes the update fixed it. we accidentally turned on signing for posts in main stage when we first released it - 2025-03-29 23:12:38.853000

punk6529: on the to-do list to make it clearer - 2025-03-29 23:10:37.001000

punk6529: xoxoxo - 2025-03-29 23:09:58.751000

punk6529: https://x.com/kirawontmiss/status/1905703037613781242 - 2025-03-29 23:09:52.416000

punk6529: as per earlier discussion - 2025-03-29 23:09:52.069000

punk6529: topic - 2025-03-29 21:51:32.880000

punk6529: yes he is great on this topif - 2025-03-29 21:51:29.071000

punk6529: sure but I dunno the Malaysian Ambassador in Italy does not have much to worry about I think - 2025-03-29 21:50:41.011000

punk6529: well i think you ought to be able to delete - @[simo] have you enabled? - 2025-03-29 21:50:03.922000

punk6529: life dream has come true, i have had my portrait made by bored - 2025-03-29 21:49:17.988000

punk6529: yes something like that - 2025-03-29 21:48:17.708000

punk6529: one use, but it also have practical uses - e.g. what we are doing with MemesNominee - 2025-03-29 21:47:56.522000

punk6529: you missed the Great Ghiblization - March 27 to March 28, 2025? - 2025-03-29 21:44:24.693000

punk6529: all waves or just main stage? - 2025-03-29 21:43:23.650000

punk6529: android or iphone? - 2025-03-29 21:43:09.419000

punk6529: just yesterday they turned the whole world pastel for example! - 2025-03-29 21:41:40.552000

punk6529: of public diplomacy - 2025-03-29 21:39:29.733000

punk6529: Taking Paddington on a tour of the UK and your country is, in retrospect, like "why did we not invent the wheel before today - 2025-03-29 21:39:13.700000

punk6529: incredible content - 2025-03-29 21:37:16.791000

punk6529: I mean... - 2025-03-29 21:37:13.167000

punk6529: https://x.com/AmbJapanUK/status/1901562964316242339 - 2025-03-29 21:37:06.724000

punk6529: you should follow his feed - he has reached wholesomeness levels never before known to man - 2025-03-29 21:36:19.718000

punk6529: Since 99% of country pairs have no actual beef with each other, Ambassadors all should be doing wholesome stuff like this - 2025-03-29 21:35:26.166000

punk6529: also @[boredsurgeon] as Ambassador of the UK, I would like to share with you that the Japanese Ambassador to the UK is currently my favorite ambassador in the world https://x.com/AmbJapanUK/status/1905933669170098198 - 2025-03-29 21:34:36.929000

punk6529: also btw what do you mean? your card is on the leaderboard - 2025-03-29 21:32:58.676000

punk6529: no, it is true. we are building a completely permission protocol except we are going to code right into the protocol code "fuck with arsonic" - 2025-03-29 21:32:22.634000

punk6529: lolololololololol - 2025-03-29 21:31:10.583000

punk6529: i"n our next act, we are going rough up some nuns and 3 year old girls" - 2025-03-29 21:30:43.284000

punk6529: oh i understood that, it is just that police-raiding-the-Quakers is like comically bad PR - 2025-03-29 21:29:39.060000

punk6529: btw @[boredsurgeon] as the official Ambassador of the UK, are you guys really raiding the legendarily violent, checks notes, Quakers now? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/29/met-raids-quaker-meeting-house-and-arrests-six-women-at-youth-demand-talk - 2025-03-29 21:26:51.791000

punk6529: yes also true - 2025-03-29 21:24:43.433000

punk6529: yeah I think walk away from the screen helps in that situation - 2025-03-29 21:24:35.719000

punk6529: yeah, I don't know exactly, I am going to feel my way through it - it is all very emergent and fascinating to observe. I think you are broadly in the right direction. I definitely do not want overwhelm the signal of the community, I probably would intervene if I thought there was something genuinely damaging in the lead, so far what has felt interesting to me has be to use my votes in a couple of ways: to push up some cards to get some visibility and to use them as a form of like/appreciation. at a very very broad high level so far I think the voting patterns (pre-voting ok) have been very reasonable - 2025-03-29 21:23:47.746000

punk6529: isn't that where you saw the lights? - 2025-03-29 21:18:36.013000

punk6529: But I am not sure I would live there permanently - 2025-03-29 21:17:38.870000

punk6529: Fun to visit - 2025-03-29 21:17:17.238000

punk6529: Pudong and Dubai give me the same vibes - 2025-03-29 21:17:09.011000

punk6529: ah yeah, i am not sure it is even pretend decentralization tbh. as you say pretty and a bit eerie - 2025-03-29 21:16:09.317000

punk6529: "6529 Executive Coaching As A Service Whether You Want It Or Not" - 2025-03-29 21:14:54.161000

punk6529: maybe it is semantics but I disagree that you cannot discuss what you want to discuss. you can discuss it here and ignore the people that you disagree with (like I have done every day on twitter and Discord since I started 6529) or you can make a wave of like-minded people or DM/s and discuss in total peace and report back your findings to the group wave once you have had a chance to think about in peace without our annoying co-citizens bothering you. you can of course also express your frustration but when you do it in a group wave you risk me showing up to share helpful solutions like the above to be less frustrated :) - 2025-03-29 21:13:56.884000

punk6529: so I had a long chat with @[6529er] earlier in the week about this and if we should make a very brain/SZN11 appropriate SZN opener which we are obviously capable of doing. and that might be more "on theme" it is true. but we decided that the meta-optics of that in SZN11 would negate the benefit. OK, here is the community SZN and the first card, we come in heavy with a 6529er card which is almost certainly going to be selected. We will contribute during this SZN, but not the opening week. - 2025-03-29 21:10:17.619000

punk6529: if you don't want to be interrupted, you can DM mintface - 2025-03-29 21:06:08.008000

punk6529: you can have whatever views you have, you are just not being oppressed, come on - 2025-03-29 21:05:55.124000

punk6529: people obviously interrupt - 2025-03-29 21:05:36.706000

punk6529: but i dunno this is a group chat - 2025-03-29 21:05:31.214000

punk6529: what you really mean is: "i want to have a public discussion with mintface in the main stage wave and I do not want anyone interrupting that discussion with their views" - 2025-03-29 21:05:05.318000

punk6529: my point is "I wasn't able to" is I dunno, not a thing on this platform - 2025-03-29 21:04:32.415000

punk6529: obviously if you and @[MintFace] want to have a fully uninterrupted discussion, you can DM, make another wave, etc, etc - 2025-03-29 21:04:03.248000

punk6529: what is possibly the big deal - 2025-03-29 21:03:15.925000

punk6529: other people may jump in - 2025-03-29 21:03:09.182000

punk6529: but you are in a group chat - 2025-03-29 21:03:04.318000

punk6529: of course you can speculate all you want - 2025-03-29 21:03:00.217000

punk6529: "we are not even allowed to speculate' - 2025-03-29 21:02:53.818000

punk6529: "well I am feeling as though we are not allowed to even speculate about what we might like without having to hear about it. all hail decentralization" I am old enough to remember 3 minutes ago when you posted this - 2025-03-29 21:02:34.380000

punk6529: what does this even mean - 2025-03-29 21:00:43.710000

punk6529: "hexum thinks the opening card should be something different on a more focused theme" is not a failure of decentralization. it is Hexum's opinion which is valued, just like everyone else's opinion is valued - 2025-03-29 20:59:23.350000

punk6529: i am thrilled - 2025-03-29 20:58:45.611000

punk6529: what possibly could be improved? - 2025-03-29 20:58:43.370000

punk6529: the tech works, we have good cards, the pre-voting is reasonable, everyone is having a good time - 2025-03-29 20:58:32.109000

punk6529: this is 100x smoother than my best case imagining of what the first card would be - 2025-03-29 20:58:01.920000

punk6529: what is messy about it? - 2025-03-29 20:57:35.983000

punk6529: when people on the internet have wrong opinions, you can just ignore them and carry on - 2025-03-29 20:56:56.305000

punk6529: ser, I logged into this wave and half my feed are posts by you. I don't think you are being oppressed by Big Decentralization - 2025-03-29 20:55:58.532000

punk6529: REMINDER: YOUR VOTE STARTS COUNTING IN 20 HOURS FROM NOW - 2025-03-29 20:54:27.300000

punk6529: 100% it is on the to-do list! For this first one, I will just make ongoing reminders - 2025-03-29 20:53:30.700000

punk6529: Mintface censoring Arsonic from putting his uncensorable card on The Memes I see. :elon: - 2025-03-29 20:52:15.337000

punk6529: nobody is going to remember any of this particular sub sub sub discussion in 48 hours - 2025-03-29 20:50:55.186000

punk6529: personally, I think it is all OK and nobody should worry about it - 2025-03-29 20:50:32.998000

punk6529: I often disagree with myself-of-2-hours-ago about which card I think we should mint - 2025-03-29 20:49:58.423000

punk6529: it is 100% certain that lots of people in this wave are going to disagree about a lot of things including which cards we should mint when - 2025-03-29 20:49:30.776000

punk6529: and you can choose to engage in it or not - 2025-03-29 20:48:55.918000

punk6529: if you and @[arsonic] do not agree about the substance or the process of your discussion, well, that is fine, you can not agree about the substance or the process of your discussion - 2025-03-29 20:48:37.319000

punk6529: ok that it is fine, but obviously none of this is any of my business - 2025-03-29 20:47:17.460000

punk6529: I am certainly not going to start telling people what they want to talk about - 2025-03-29 20:45:47.144000

punk6529: well, anyone can have any discussion they want right? you can discuss the thing you want to discuss and other people can discuss the 10 other things they want to discuss too? - 2025-03-29 20:45:33.960000

punk6529: unironically yes. when someone mints a CC0 card on an Ethereum token it is in fact both legally and technically uncensorable - 2025-03-29 20:44:51.994000

punk6529: in any SZN - 2025-03-29 20:39:20.408000

punk6529: as a concept fwiw - 2025-03-29 20:39:15.985000

punk6529: I think uncensorable is fully within the spirit of what we are doing - 2025-03-29 20:39:09.950000

punk6529: is less important I think - 2025-03-29 20:38:36.971000

punk6529: whether we explicitly say that in the cards - 2025-03-29 20:38:31.018000

punk6529: as a group - 2025-03-29 20:38:23.536000

punk6529: is that we picked the cards ourselves - 2025-03-29 20:38:20.812000

punk6529: the single most important theme - 2025-03-29 20:38:14.255000

punk6529: this SZN itself has a "the medium is the message" vibe to it regardless - 2025-03-29 20:37:57.043000

punk6529: that is a good (and hard) goal in and of itself - 2025-03-29 20:37:31.434000

punk6529: we should get great cards minted on the contract - 2025-03-29 20:37:18.566000

punk6529: kindly, i think you are overthinking it both of you - 2025-03-29 20:36:46.799000

punk6529: yup exactly - 2025-03-29 20:31:14.559000

punk6529: we will see! - 2025-03-29 10:10:45.990000

punk6529: very cool - 2025-03-29 09:53:37.951000

punk6529: will be around later!!! - 2025-03-29 09:53:17.907000

punk6529: good stuff happening - 2025-03-29 09:53:12.267000

punk6529: gmeme - 2025-03-29 09:53:08.952000

punk6529: If they are patient and hodl they will get a lot more influence that they would in BTC or Eth. If they are not patient, who cares - 2025-03-28 22:39:55.341000

punk6529: Thank you ser - 2025-03-28 22:38:02.617000

punk6529: There is no doubt that the edgy part of crypto is now NFTs. No doubt. - 2025-03-28 22:34:57.696000

punk6529: They really don't - 2025-03-28 22:32:56.342000

punk6529: It really is. Look I don't know but that is what my gut says. There is no doubt the best NFTs will be the most valuable tokens in the world. The only question is "which ones are the best" - 2025-03-28 22:31:53.491000

punk6529: Yup - 2025-03-28 22:29:37.530000

punk6529: Constantly running - 2025-03-28 22:23:58.548000

punk6529: Otherwise if all good ppl stay on main - 2025-03-28 22:23:41.347000

punk6529: Forking is an escape hatch in case main goes bad - 2025-03-28 22:23:09.222000

punk6529: It's a tradeoffs. More native vs ETH is the currently the best place for NFTs. We can see. There is no rush - 2025-03-28 22:15:55.570000

punk6529: we will make a tab where you can see this - already on the list @[simo] - 2025-03-28 16:35:23.019000

punk6529: instantly I believe @[GelatoGenesis] - 2025-03-28 16:35:04.699000

punk6529: if it does not get fixed, let's see after you reboot and if that does not work then @[prxt0] and @[simo] can take a look at it because it is interesting, I cannot think of a mechanism that would impact you only - 2025-03-28 16:33:28.892000

punk6529: you won't have to reconnect - 2025-03-28 16:32:53.892000

punk6529: just hard refresh the tab you are in - 2025-03-28 16:32:48.208000

punk6529: yeah i mean there are basically no examples of a dutch auction high value large mint that has ever worked - 2025-03-28 16:31:12.564000

punk6529: for you specifically - 2025-03-28 16:30:18.051000

punk6529: that they would show up delayed - 2025-03-28 16:30:09.746000

punk6529: makes no sense though - 2025-03-28 16:30:08.092000

punk6529: i think this is what @[simo] just fixed - can you check again pls - 2025-03-28 16:29:54.096000

punk6529: @[prxt0] - 2025-03-28 16:29:43.132000

punk6529: hard refresh your browser tab just in case you are caught in some between releases state. i see all the tweets except the one you posted and @[6529er] tried to post (yours) - 2025-03-28 16:29:12.058000

punk6529: safe choice! - 2025-03-28 16:12:28.063000

punk6529: my tweet appeared instantly here - 2025-03-28 16:11:56.909000

punk6529: i don't know what you mean - 2025-03-28 16:11:53.024000

punk6529: https://x.com/punk6529/status/1905508839409037355 - 2025-03-28 16:11:44.772000

punk6529: 1. you vote for, say, 10 cards out of 30 2. 1 of the 10 cards you voted for is selected to mint. that TDH is "returned to you" 3. The TDH on the other 9 cards remains as you had voted it 4. You can change your vote on those 9 cards and any other cards at any time 5. There is no general date the vote ends - 3x a week the top card gets minted but the leaderboard and votes keep on rolling, forever! - 2025-03-28 16:10:47.103000

punk6529: ? - 2025-03-28 16:07:18.652000

punk6529: it is wild how overrepresented the healthcare sector is in The Memes. i have no idea why tbh! - 2025-03-28 15:27:03.546000

punk6529: link to the wallet pls on the delegation center - 2025-03-28 15:12:01.755000

punk6529:  - 2025-03-28 14:21:00.421000

punk6529:  - 2025-03-28 14:20:21.625000

punk6529: this is not the voters group. the voters group is "anyone with TDH" this is the group of people allowed to drop a Meme Card which are: a) all prior The Memes artists and b) anyone with MemesNominee > 50K in rep - 2025-03-28 14:19:33.711000

punk6529: great - 2025-03-28 14:14:26.653000

punk6529: The goal of this group is not to submit a meme card. it is to show us your prior work so that someone says "hey, maybe this person can make a good meme card" - 2025-03-28 14:14:13.913000

punk6529: imagine they are game cards and fill in something fun - 2025-03-28 14:13:34.449000

punk6529: and send to @[prxt0] - 2025-03-28 14:13:13.750000

punk6529: @[HugoFaz] we need a hugo running in a marathon emoji. please procure! - 2025-03-28 14:13:05.924000

punk6529: :om_seize: - 2025-03-28 14:12:43.406000

punk6529: yes it is on the to-do list @[simo] @[prxt0] - 2025-03-28 10:45:34.414000

punk6529: yes - 2025-03-28 10:45:11.544000

punk6529:  - 2025-03-28 08:14:48.401000

punk6529: needs good thinking - 2025-03-28 06:01:59.480000

punk6529: but making a submission that is conceptually aligned with the memes is non-trivial - 2025-03-28 06:01:53.677000

punk6529: there are a lot of fantastic photographers with a lot of fantastic work in the NFT space - 2025-03-28 06:01:33.953000

punk6529: it is the most challenging medium to get right in the memes - 2025-03-28 06:01:11.097000

punk6529: my general note to all photographers - 2025-03-28 06:01:05.753000

punk6529: ok @[AnilTPrabhakar] I put you over the line - 2025-03-28 06:00:58.466000

punk6529: congrats!!! - 2025-03-28 05:59:17

punk6529: thank you, much apprecaited! - 2025-03-28 05:57:48.602000

punk6529: there are no guidelines. artists can put whatever they want in the description. but as part of my qualitative soft guidance, I am seeing a lot of long descriptions and if you check the memes there are not a lot of overly long literal descriptions in the minted pieces so i am "concerned" (I mean, not really concerned, just "concerned") that people are using the description field that will be minted for the "about the piece chat" - 2025-03-28 05:56:37.506000

punk6529: yeah, maybe. this is quite a bit of UX complexity tho. i think for now delete and repost is ok - 2025-03-28 05:54:24.273000

punk6529: he he he - 2025-03-28 05:27:42.808000

punk6529: winner is the weighted average of the last 24 hours before decision time - 2025-03-27 21:46:03.684000

punk6529: 3 votes per week - 2025-03-27 21:45:52.727000

punk6529: no - 2025-03-27 21:45:46.977000

punk6529: running leaderboard forever - 2025-03-27 21:44:31.807000

punk6529: just one mint at a time - 2025-03-27 21:44:20.740000

punk6529: nothing is per week - 2025-03-27 21:44:19.530000

punk6529: ever - 2025-03-27 21:44:15.917000

punk6529: nothing resets every - 2025-03-27 21:44:11.138000

punk6529: i dunno still puts a big burden on the voter to detect a change - 2025-03-27 21:40:27.962000

punk6529: it would be better - 2025-03-27 21:32:11.010000

punk6529: but i feel if it was weekly - 2025-03-27 21:32:06.648000

punk6529: and ends up 2-3 / year - 2025-03-27 21:31:59.932000

punk6529: yeah trying to do quarterly - 2025-03-27 21:31:54.257000

punk6529: i think by high frequency monitoring - 2025-03-27 21:25:00.160000

punk6529: it is a mental hurdle you have to get over - 2025-03-27 21:24:44.542000

punk6529: even i sometimes putz around for weeks/months to go do my blood tests so I can "do better" as if it was some type of quiz lol - 2025-03-27 21:24:37.135000

punk6529: a lot of people (maybe most) are like this but I think it is a mistake - 2025-03-27 21:13:24.748000

punk6529: ouch - 2025-03-27 21:09:13.111000

punk6529: now we are talking - 2025-03-27 21:08:51.769000

punk6529: sad! - 2025-03-27 21:04:54.155000

punk6529: that will teach you about the perils of spending time with your loved ones - 2025-03-27 21:02:38.372000

punk6529: man if this was not someone else's copyright, this would be a great meme card. someone should find the photographer - 2025-03-27 21:01:33.876000

punk6529: for sure will happen - 2025-03-27 21:00:57.424000

punk6529: impressive - 2025-03-27 21:00:28.409000

punk6529: tomorrow we will make this clearer - 2025-03-27 20:59:57.762000

punk6529: maybe this is the middle ground solution @[simo] - 2025-03-27 20:59:47.743000

punk6529: @[HugoFaz] vibes https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1905216981932077536 - 2025-03-27 20:58:43.366000

punk6529: we need find a way to manage the feed compression and then have full rez when you expand because this wave is slowing down now - 2025-03-27 20:51:53.357000

punk6529: good question. i dunno because it opens up gaming possibilities. may be better to delete and repost - 2025-03-27 20:51:13.945000

punk6529: I, for one, am gonna pick one of these up for the house 🤣 Siemens MAGNETOM Terra - 2025-03-27 20:49:19.420000

punk6529: interesting! - 2025-03-27 20:48:09.618000

punk6529: don't worry, bro you are doing the right thing lol - 2025-03-27 20:47:18.109000

punk6529: Artists: The "description" field is the field that is going to be minted. I think some of them are a bit wordy. You can explain the piece also in the replies to it - 2025-03-27 20:16:39.833000

punk6529: @[sundayfunday] you get your TDH back. there is just currently a bit of a delay for the "range" changing. we will clean this up tomorrow and make it more cleare - 2025-03-27 20:14:02.642000

punk6529: i love it when i talk myself into things - 2025-03-27 20:13:11.601000

punk6529: now i want to buy more of them lol - 2025-03-27 20:12:57.301000

punk6529: it is a plausible thesis - 2025-03-27 20:12:44.085000

punk6529: yeah i mean it is the name on the top menu, it is a 6529er card it is a great card - 2025-03-27 20:12:39.580000

punk6529: is nice. what do you mean 'across multiple platforms' - 2025-03-27 20:11:56.835000

punk6529: what does it mean "decentralized across multiple platforms?" - 2025-03-27 20:11:07.502000

punk6529: small thumbnail - 2025-03-27 20:09:51.083000

punk6529: yeah something like that - 2025-03-27 20:09:42.764000

punk6529: yes this would be useful @[simo] i wonder if we could put this somewhere in the right panel - 2025-03-27 20:08:56.825000

punk6529: gn R - 2025-03-27 20:08:00.864000

punk6529: what?! wow - 2025-03-27 20:07:35.638000

punk6529: @[simo] - 2025-03-27 20:02:40.333000

punk6529: interesting thing to discuss over the next couple of days! - 2025-03-27 19:54:04.468000

punk6529: yup - 2025-03-27 19:51:56.226000

punk6529: we should make this button more clear what it does! I was going to submit the same feature request lol @[simo] - 2025-03-27 19:45:15.453000

punk6529: when you submit - 2025-03-27 19:37:31.211000

punk6529: also, curation in general. - 2025-03-27 19:35:55.505000

punk6529: so it will catch up soon - 2025-03-27 19:30:54.391000

punk6529: even in the pre-voting / no commitment period we run the 24 hours backward looking algorithm - 2025-03-27 19:30:42.046000

punk6529: it is - 2025-03-27 19:29:31.490000

punk6529: you should upload your final high rez piece - 2025-03-27 19:28:06.031000

punk6529: yup - i want to get a couple of mints under our belt without too much pressure and then will promote more - i think people will enjoy getting their favorite artists and pieces in - 2025-03-27 19:23:05.388000

punk6529: need to go to boomer web for now - 2025-03-27 19:19:53.949000

punk6529: ah, sorry that won't pick up the fix until tomorrow morning! it came last second @[prxt0] - 2025-03-27 19:19:46.883000

punk6529: thanks. i spent a lot of time thinking about it. i think the combo of: a/ signaling period (before votes are tallied) b/ long but not extreme voting period c/ final decision is really nice and important for making complex and permissionless decisions like these - 2025-03-27 19:18:54.483000

punk6529: it was there initially but we fixed - 2025-03-27 19:15:55.553000

punk6529: do a hard refresh - 2025-03-27 19:15:49.104000

punk6529: the easy way to think about it is that it is the average of what you voted every second the last 24 hours - 2025-03-27 19:15:30.398000

punk6529: the math is correct - 2025-03-27 19:15:05.092000

punk6529: sure - 2025-03-27 19:14:50.602000

punk6529: for your own drop - 2025-03-27 19:14:45.317000

punk6529: and they might withdraw before the vote - 2025-03-27 19:14:36.213000

punk6529: etc etc - 2025-03-27 19:13:27.335000

punk6529: i might nuke it instantly - 2025-03-27 19:13:13.793000

punk6529: for example, someone posts something super inappropriate - 2025-03-27 19:13:09.394000

punk6529: to have both signals - 2025-03-27 19:12:25.105000

punk6529: and I think it is useful - 2025-03-27 19:12:21.191000

punk6529: the immune system will build up - 2025-03-27 19:11:57.495000

punk6529: of course! it is the first time for all of us, together this time - 2025-03-27 19:10:54.107000

punk6529: we need to demonstrate these periods visually @[simo] so it is clear to people - 2025-03-27 19:10:29.456000

punk6529: it is three days before election day. someone asks you "who do you plan to vote for" you say "biden" people can decide if that means anything or not but in any case it is not binding. what matters is what you vote in the voting booth - 2025-03-27 19:09:40.359000

punk6529: and that will have no effect on the voting. it is like telling your cat what you plan to vote - 2025-03-27 19:08:13.631000

punk6529: but we need some protections from malicious code - 2025-03-27 19:07:44.592000

punk6529: we will enable interactive at some point - 2025-03-27 19:07:38.253000

punk6529: someone/s need to rep you with 50K of the MemesNominee rep - 2025-03-27 19:05:39.120000

punk6529: that is plenty of time to see what is happening - 2025-03-27 19:05:25.079000

punk6529: here what matters is the weighted average vote over the last 24 hours - 2025-03-27 19:05:14.830000

punk6529: in a regular vote, the only thing that matters is the vote at the last second. this is very spoofable / gameable - 2025-03-27 19:04:59.445000

punk6529: no - 2025-03-27 19:04:35.513000

punk6529: it won't show up in rep - 2025-03-27 19:03:49.561000

punk6529: will check - 2025-03-27 19:00:49.562000

punk6529: correct - 2025-03-27 19:00:45.905000

punk6529: so you can follow main or side chat - 2025-03-27 18:57:35.368000

punk6529: other way around. you get it back if the artist is selected. if they are not selected, it remains voting on that piece until you withdraw it - 2025-03-27 18:57:14.073000

punk6529: for the first 2 hours in production, it is extra-great. well-done @[simo] @[GelatoGenesis] @[prxt0] @[ragne] - 2025-03-27 18:56:38.330000

punk6529: Rakesh always delivering natural alphabets! - 2025-03-27 18:52:20.670000

punk6529: ok this is kindof how I had it in mind - 2025-03-27 18:51:17.623000

punk6529: don't worry until Sunday night at 1700 there is no impact - 2025-03-27 18:49:32.882000

punk6529: lol - 2025-03-27 18:49:20.933000

punk6529: that is what the leaderboard is for! chat is chat, leaderboard is ranking - 2025-03-27 18:49:01.700000

punk6529: if you have 1M TDH you can vote positive 500K on one, positive 100K on another -400K on a third - 2025-03-27 18:48:02.437000

punk6529: no it is split among the cards you vote on - 2025-03-27 18:47:40.801000

punk6529: 1/ when we say votes we always mean TDH. otherwise it is easy to spam the system with spinning up 10,000 ethereum addresses to come vote 2/ not top 3, we are not doing it by week but by drop. top 1 at any checkpoint - 2025-03-27 18:47:22.187000

punk6529: We have noticed the order of the leaderboard and @[GelatoGenesis] is looking into it - 2025-03-27 18:46:18.609000

punk6529: - yes noted on leaderboard. we noticed this too and @[GelatoGenesis] is working on - second is a very good idea and @[simo] we should take this on tomorrow - 2025-03-27 18:45:40.295000

punk6529: it should lower the score - 2025-03-27 18:44:26.265000

punk6529: you withdraw 99 of your 100 TDH - 2025-03-27 18:44:16.543000

punk6529: this means you changed your mind - 2025-03-27 18:44:10.214000

punk6529: yes - 2025-03-27 18:43:59.928000

punk6529: correct. if you leave it there it will apply to the next round - 2025-03-27 18:43:48.178000

punk6529: when we calculate the last 24 hours of votes, we calculate it at the millisecond level lol - 2025-03-27 18:43:02.810000

punk6529: you can move the slider at any time - 2025-03-27 18:42:28.411000

punk6529: no the opposite. your vote will be recorded as: 100 TDH x (23/24th) + 1,000,000 TDH x (1/24th) - 2025-03-27 18:41:58.704000

punk6529: but because you will be able to see how they are trending, you could see that your card may not be heading to victory and you might want to switch to impact among the other ones. it will be interesting I think - 2025-03-27 18:41:17.121000

punk6529: if you are sure which card you want to vote for, just vote 24 hours before and chill - 2025-03-27 18:39:55.306000

punk6529: but every minute in the 24 hours before the deadline that you are not allocated you are "losing" an opportunity to impact that vote - 2025-03-27 18:39:13.631000

punk6529: TDH, always TDH - 2025-03-27 18:38:36.058000

punk6529: you have to vote 24 hours in advance to maximize your power. whatever you vote before 24 hours in advance does not matter, you can change it without cost - 2025-03-27 18:38:26.907000

punk6529: cc: @[simo] @[prxt0] - 2025-03-27 18:36:55.469000

punk6529: someone could in principle drop 1 hour before the deadline but to win for that deadline they would have to get an astronomical number of votes (if it would be even mathematically possible) - 2025-03-27 18:36:23.110000

punk6529: nope but 24 hours before the deadline the votes start getting tallied up - 2025-03-27 18:35:41.787000

punk6529: you have to sign your drops, that is why - 2025-03-27 18:34:43.814000

punk6529: So let me explain how the anti-sniping / weighted average voting works. Basically it is an average of the prior 24 hours from the end of the voting. So: 1. If 24 hours before a drop had 100 votes 2. and 12 hours before, it had 150 votes 3. and 6 hour before it had 200 votes The final would be: 100 x 50% and 150 x 25% and 200 x 25% = 137.5 - 2025-03-27 18:34:32.511000

punk6529: So let me explain how the anti-sniping / weighted average voting works. Basically it is an average of the prior 24 hours from the end of the voting. So: 1. If 24 hours before a drop had 100 votes 2. and 12 hours before, it had 150 votes 3. and 6 hour before it had 200 votes The final would be: 100 x 50% and 150 x 25% and 200 x 25% = 137.5 - 2025-03-27 18:34:05.789000

punk6529: yeah, I thought about this and even though my initial reaction was "no", I later thought "why not" if you ban it, people will just trade votes in the background. might as well have it in the open - 2025-03-27 18:28:23.376000

punk6529: it is a weighted average of the vote totals over the last 24 hours before the checkpoint - 2025-03-27 18:24:10.671000

punk6529: you forgot to post "first" :punkshake: - 2025-03-27 18:23:16.962000

punk6529: 1/ we can currently negatively vote. lets see how this goes. 2/ yes you can always return your TDH and you get back the TDH you used for a card that minted - 2025-03-27 18:21:22.232000

punk6529: What does this mean - 2025-03-27 17:36:08.089000

punk6529: Yes - 2025-03-27 17:35:55.517000

punk6529: You have your full tdh at any point in time - 2025-03-27 17:32:58.165000

punk6529: Thank you - 2025-03-27 17:32:07.252000

punk6529: thanks good catch - 2025-03-27 17:25:01.367000

punk6529: ahahahahah @[prxt0] here we go again - can you check pls - 2025-03-27 17:24:11.868000

punk6529: is it darren again? - 2025-03-27 17:23:50.816000

punk6529: i think capitalization matters - MemesNominee - @[simo] can confirm - 2025-03-27 17:22:05.759000

punk6529: **The Memes - Main Stage** is live! Key points below: https://6529.io/my-stream?wave=b6128077-ea78-4dd9-b381-52c4eadb2077 1/ Meme Artists + nominees can submit. 2/ The first Meme Card drops on Wednesday, April 2nd 3/ The voting for that card closes on Monday March 31 at 1700 GMT 4/ HOWEVER note that it is a continuous weighted average of the votes from Sunday March 30th at 1700 GMT through to Monday March 31 1700 GMT (so the voting totals over the last 24 hours is what counts, not the vote at the final minute) 5/ There are likely bugs, if you find them please report to @[simo] and all of us 5/ Start your engines, fire up your rockets, here we go - 2025-03-27 17:21:46.123000

punk6529: **The Memes - Main Stage** is live! Key points below: https://6529.io/my-stream?wave=b6128077-ea78-4dd9-b381-52c4eadb2077 1/ Meme Artists + nominees can submit. 2/ The first Meme Card drops on Wednesday, April 2nd 3/ The voting for that card closes on Monday March 31 at 1700 GMT 4/ HOWEVER note that it is a continuous weighted average of the votes from Sunday March 30th at 1700 GMT through to Monday March 31 1700 GMT (so the voting totals over the last 24 hours is what counts, not the vote at the final minute) 5/ There are likely bugs, if you find them please report to @[simo] and all of us 5/ Start your engines, fire up your rockets, here we go - 2025-03-27 17:21:35.876000

punk6529: **The Memes - Main Stage** is live! Key points below: https://6529.io/my-stream?wave=b6128077-ea78-4dd9-b381-52c4eadb2077 1/ Meme Artists + nominees can submit. 2/ The first Meme Card drops on Wednesday, April 2nd 3/ The voting for that card closes on Monday March 31 at 1700 GMT 4/ HOWEVER note that it is a continuous weighted average of the votes from Sunday March 30th at 1700 GMT through to Monday March 31 1700 GMT (so the voting totals over the last 24 hours is what counts, not the vote at the final minute) 5/ There are likely bugs, if you find them please report to @[simo] and all of us 5/ Start your engines, fire up your rockets, here we go - 2025-03-27 17:21:27.581000

punk6529: people would think nothing of it if it was a fungible coin - 2025-03-27 17:16:21.921000

punk6529: we are pro-NFTs - 2025-03-27 17:16:04.632000

punk6529: in any case we wish all other projects well - 2025-03-27 17:16:02.022000

punk6529: this is insane - 2025-03-27 17:15:44.204000

punk6529: just need to keep putting one foot in front of the other - 2025-03-27 17:15:14.310000

punk6529: i can see through to the end - 2025-03-27 17:15:05.679000

punk6529: we will get there on the dependencies - 2025-03-27 17:14:57.358000

punk6529: legal, technical, personal - 2025-03-27 17:14:40.298000

punk6529: there need to be no dependencies - 2025-03-27 17:14:36.836000

punk6529: even if I do go - 2025-03-27 17:14:28.437000

punk6529: but my design principle is that we need to get to the point that 6529 works great - 2025-03-27 17:14:25.772000

punk6529: no i am not going anywhere touch wood we do the body maintenance ok - 2025-03-27 17:14:03.360000

punk6529: does this mean that "car owners" are not coming to buy our NFTs? - 2025-03-27 17:12:42.216000

punk6529: what is state of the art (not in a chain, but generally state of the art) - 2025-03-27 17:12:04.746000

punk6529: is new - 2025-03-27 17:11:27.111000

punk6529: why not both and Frank's too - 2025-03-27 17:07:30.780000

punk6529: i am a BTC maxi. never forget that. WWSD is constantly running in my head - 2025-03-27 17:05:37.569000

punk6529: tomorrow it can be reversed - 2025-03-27 17:01:37.465000

punk6529: it is nothing, it is a larp - 2025-03-27 17:01:22.366000

punk6529: even if they said "season ticket holders can pick 1 player" - 2025-03-27 17:01:18.121000

punk6529: and even if they did, it would be centralized - 2025-03-27 17:01:04.570000

punk6529: it says so on the first page of the first PPT i ever wrote - 2025-03-27 17:00:41.348000

punk6529: the goal of 6529 was to build a decentralized network state - 2025-03-27 17:00:34.419000

punk6529: from day 1 - 2025-03-27 17:00:06.165000

punk6529: themselves - 2025-03-27 16:58:34.603000

punk6529: include the pepes themsevels - 2025-03-27 16:58:34.219000

punk6529: there are many fan clubs for pepes - 2025-03-27 16:58:24.361000

punk6529: it is not just a fan club for pepes - 2025-03-27 16:58:19.791000

punk6529: the goal here is world-class decentralization and censorship resistance - 2025-03-27 16:58:09.185000

punk6529: for the same reason that the network of people who cared about BTC mattered more in world history to the network of people who had a Capital One Disney affiliated credit card - 2025-03-27 16:57:26.921000

punk6529: if the network is not strong, it won't matter what the price is in the short-term if the network is strong, it won't matter what the price is in the short-term so, in both cases, it does not matter what the price is in the short-term! - 2025-03-27 16:50:36.374000

punk6529: the only thing that matters is to make the network stronger every day - 2025-03-27 16:49:09.651000

punk6529: yup - 2025-03-27 16:48:59.620000

punk6529: i don't worry day to day or even month to month or even year to year what the price of BTC is or the price of summer.jpg is (as it it is even knowable) or what the price of my private company shares are. i have some vague awareness of if they are going up or down, but I do not worry about it, I really don't. it is a better way to live. - 2025-03-27 16:48:05.376000

punk6529: and it is easy to let the tail wag the dog - 2025-03-27 16:45:32.338000

punk6529: for art or protocols that are well not at all a mature public company - 2025-03-27 16:45:21.927000

punk6529: than even a highly mature public company - 2025-03-27 16:45:06.316000

punk6529: you end up with more "price" information - 2025-03-27 16:45:00.532000

punk6529: here because we have 24/7/365 markets - 2025-03-27 16:44:56.395000

punk6529: not because he optimized the stock price every 2 hours - 2025-03-27 16:44:38.832000

punk6529: Apple was built for example because Steve Jobs was obsessed with a certain vision - 2025-03-27 16:44:28.036000

punk6529: by analogy no great company was ever built by the CEO obsessing all day on the stock ticker - 2025-03-27 16:44:00.584000

punk6529: it is hard in this space but i am sure the correct view on prices is not to think about them very much - 2025-03-27 16:43:18.453000

punk6529: everything will be fine - 2025-03-27 16:42:26.183000

punk6529: put another brick in the wall - 2025-03-27 16:42:14.484000

punk6529: if every day we do a slightly better job towards the mission than then the prior day - 2025-03-27 16:42:13.800000

punk6529: the important thing is always to focus on being better in substance every day - 2025-03-27 16:41:53.540000

punk6529: we are on the right track - 2025-03-27 16:41:24.370000

punk6529: we represent a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of the crypto space right now - 2025-03-27 16:40:43.279000

punk6529: things will change a lot ONCE we have increasing numbers of new entrants - 2025-03-27 16:40:18.525000

punk6529: my god wow - 2025-03-27 16:39:44.703000

punk6529: oh wow - what types - how did they find them - 2025-03-27 16:36:08.524000

punk6529: people are much worse at maintaining their house and their body - 2025-03-27 16:35:58.959000

punk6529: and if you don't problems will start happening - 2025-03-27 16:35:47.373000

punk6529: everyone knows you need to maintain your car - 2025-03-27 16:35:37.876000

punk6529: but i think it would be communicated more effectively as "maintenance" oddly enough - 2025-03-27 16:35:31.032000

punk6529: i know there is a lot of 'health information' - 2025-03-27 16:35:17.846000

punk6529: give us 10 more minutes pls - 2025-03-27 16:34:09.538000

punk6529: not actually submitted - he means here - 2025-03-27 16:34:03.656000

punk6529: that is the point - 2025-03-27 16:33:40.416000

punk6529: once we have decentralized voting people can vote to do whatever they like! - 2025-03-27 16:33:37.689000

punk6529: people should also get a best practice body maintenance sheet. the health services or insurance ones are not optimized for your optimal health but for system economic viability - 2025-03-27 16:33:12.636000

punk6529: the thing that is needed is people who are involved substantively - 2025-03-27 16:32:39.712000

punk6529: but for long-term improvements, security, community building - 2025-03-27 16:32:32.110000

punk6529: there is no objection in principle to people flipping - 2025-03-27 16:32:21.093000

punk6529: but we want people who want to be part of this for the long-term - 2025-03-27 16:32:08.511000

punk6529: if those people exist, great! - 2025-03-27 16:31:57.443000

punk6529: the mint-to-flip crowd does not add anything in substance. it implies people who want to buy it at 0.12 - 2025-03-27 16:31:44.592000

punk6529: that is nice - 2025-03-27 16:29:15.279000

punk6529: yah - 2025-03-27 16:29:12.416000

punk6529: because we don't have the same expectations of builders that we do of auto manufacturers - 2025-03-27 16:29:07.714000

punk6529: i guess it is in nobody's interest to explain this - 2025-03-27 16:28:51.384000

punk6529: like cars do - 2025-03-27 16:28:37.539000

punk6529: https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1905286188283359662 houses should come with a maintenance schedule - 2025-03-27 16:28:27.557000

punk6529: we will know soon! - 2025-03-27 16:18:12.651000

punk6529: ha! - 2025-03-27 16:10:42.615000

punk6529: they made a lot of money in SZN2 due to the large edition size. they have nothing to be upset about - 2025-03-27 15:53:40.166000

punk6529: send to @[prxt0] - 2025-03-27 15:52:36.225000

punk6529: the PPT is the best place: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Aejko31qFkAIyu-Qc3Ao9tHQGbbaFCIcqrBj_kZzo_M/edit#slide=id.p1 - 2025-03-27 15:45:33.571000

punk6529: it will be a wave - 2025-03-27 15:44:43.409000

punk6529: Same as all prior szns. - 2025-03-27 15:43:48.370000

punk6529: bribing @[prxt0] in dev chat - 2025-03-27 15:29:11.503000

punk6529: ghibli/jd vance/sesame street styled of course, with saratoga water - 2025-03-27 15:23:55.952000

punk6529: 75+ so bats can be here talking to himself - 2025-03-27 15:21:58.974000

punk6529: so you can have 3 active submissions at any point in time. if one gets selected, it gets whisked off into the process like the "old" process for now @[teexels] takes over and you have another spot to use if you delete one of the three submissions, you have a free spot, etc, etc - 2025-03-27 15:21:11.636000

punk6529: we are going to answer these questions another 1000x times - 2025-03-27 15:20:07.673000

punk6529: we don't need to be so picky - 2025-03-27 15:20:00.856000

punk6529: i think it is ok to answer here - 2025-03-27 15:19:53.280000

punk6529: these are all great questions - 2025-03-27 15:19:46.378000

punk6529: i think talent is the key determinant. if they are talented, it will work out - 2025-03-27 15:16:24.430000

punk6529: as 9er said, the leaderboard is running and ongoing across drops - 2025-03-27 15:15:31.956000

punk6529: and in time I hope we broaden even to non-art things (science, journalism, etc) but one step at a time - 2025-03-27 15:14:13.136000

punk6529: I expect we will end up with something similar in SZN11 - 2025-03-27 15:13:52.306000

punk6529: our 'algorithm' as such which I think worked pretty well was something like any of these three gets you in: 1/ purely memetic 2/ sortof, can be positioned memetic 3/ was so great that it did not matter so much if memetic not in 1/ good piece of art (particularly photography) that is not in the above categories - 2025-03-27 15:13:41.883000

punk6529: yes of course - you can make a group limited to whoever you want (based dynamically on rep or tdh or level or with individual additions or exclusions) and then you can make a wave with that group controlling access - 2025-03-27 15:10:50.137000

punk6529: good question - it is a continuously running leaderboard and you can submit at any time and each card locks in 2 days before mint (whichever card is at the top 2 days before mint, based on trailing 24 hours weighted average vote) - 2025-03-27 15:09:57.818000

punk6529: i think that is enough - 2025-03-27 15:02:24.716000

punk6529: no, no need for that we have memes-chat, memes faq, seeking nomination and soon main stage - 2025-03-27 15:02:22.067000

punk6529: it is almost as if the ideal approach was to have both - 2025-03-27 14:57:23.818000