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#1459158 2026-09-22 15:17
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236513 2026-07-24 12:03
ok so the agent can pick up its own testing after that
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236502 2026-07-24 12:02
what does staging validated mean
Context from GelatoGenesis #1236500 2026-07-24 12:02
for this flow nothing changes. you just ask your codex to wait for the STAGING_VALIDATED status, do its manual testing and if ok then proceed to scheule for prod train
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236499 2026-07-24 12:02
it is a massive step backwards
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236496 2026-07-24 12:02
without an AI behind it all - e.g. without openai key etc
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236489 2026-07-24 12:02
obviously with an AI behind it, it will be a massive step backwards
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236487 2026-07-24 12:01
and the issue with taking away this responsibility from the thread that raised the PR
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236483 2026-07-24 12:01
it is human style testing
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236481 2026-07-24 12:01
and it has access to the unit tests, to the browser environment, to the AWS CLI
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236476 2026-07-24 12:00
of course
Context from GelatoGenesis #1236473 2026-07-24 12:00
so who does the testing currently in your case? you ask your codex to take something to staging and then ask it to open the browser and test it in staging?
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236474 2026-07-24 12:00
but you no longer have intelligence dealing with E2E testing
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236470 2026-07-24 12:00
which is, in the scheme of things, a more mechanical issue
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236462 2026-07-24 12:00
you solve one problem which is conflicting changes
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236460 2026-07-24 11:59
it is going to reduce performance IMHO
Context from GelatoGenesis #1236456 2026-07-24 11:59
why i planned the openai thing is that the train could resolve easier merge conflicts itself and diagnose the offenders if something breaks. but i want to prove that the train without this fancy layers is stable before i consider that again
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236458 2026-07-24 11:59
marked SAFE from fires
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236457 2026-07-24 11:59
https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/france-requests-help-eu-deal-with-fires-says-macron-2026-07-24/
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236455 2026-07-24 11:59
anyway you are lucky, it is Ferret, not Ferrat
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236449 2026-07-24 11:58
nothing escapes the All-Seeing Eye of Punk 6529 :wink:
Context from simo #1236431 2026-07-24 11:55
i am literally 10km away… and hearing it from… punk
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236447 2026-07-24 11:58
let's say there are 5 different PRs from 5 different long threads and they have now been deployed to staging which AI knows (and how does it know) if the behavior on staging is the desired behavior?
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236443 2026-07-24 11:57
does not really answer my question - who is testing staging
Context from GelatoGenesis #1236434 2026-07-24 11:55
1. your thread does the development, whatever local testing you see fit, created a pr, resolves all the issues and uses an API to register your branch and its HEAD SHA to train for staging. 2. other people may in parallel have similar threads 3. theres a loop that runs once a minute and sees if theres something registered for staging 4. if there is something registered and there is no active ongoing train to staging then it assembles all the registered PRs to one temporary branch, merges it to 1a-staging, deploys and runs e2e tests 5. if there is an active train to staging already then it waits until it finishes and then does (4) 6. if all that passes then the status is STAGING_VALIDATED. your codex now has to tell the train to take your pr to prod. 7. release train takes this info and verifies if what you requested to take to prod is STAGING_VALIDATED and if it is then it starts another train to take it to merge it to main and take it to prod 8. Prod train works the same way as staging train. Multiple developments can be in one train etc.. Prod train has a different queue from staging train (ie they can run in parallel)
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236413 2026-07-24 11:51
nice, are you running away from the fires in Cap Ferrat!
Context from simo #1236383 2026-07-24 11:45
French Riviera. Wanna join for a run?
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236400 2026-07-24 11:48
ok so how does this work - there is a thread that is doing X (whatever X is) and has all the context for X and raises PR, iterates with the bots, merges, now it goes to staging and that thread in "my" method would be responsible for testing its work, seeing if it has done what it was supposed to do and then fixing it if needed. And obviously this thread has all the context of the actual goals. How does that happen now
Context from GelatoGenesis #1236388 2026-07-24 11:46
the ordering thing is what caused a deadlock at the moment. A required B and B required A. This shouldn't have gone through and codex is working on a fix as we speak
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236378 2026-07-24 11:43
this is for both FE and BE repo?
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236363 2026-07-24 11:36
@[prxt0] @[simo] have we gone back to this on FE? "The rules are now clear: main requires one approval specifically from the maintainer team, dismisses approvals after a push, and requires approval from someone other than the last pusher."
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236341 2026-07-24 11:25
perfect thanks
Context from GelatoGenesis #1236338 2026-07-24 11:24
Gimme a moment. I'll assemble all the info if or what I need and a short concise instruction on how to use the new release train
punk6529 Dev Team Chat Reply #1236337 2026-07-24 11:24
got it!
Context from prxt0 #1236336 2026-07-24 11:22
im good, dont need anythiing worked mostly on automated releases notes for BE and FE last week (or was it 2 weeks ago) and #[CI-PRODUCTION], #[CI-STAGING] posting but nothing with actual deployment as such that was gelatos struggles :innocent:
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236332 2026-07-24 11:16
@[simo] @[prxt0] @[GelatoGenesis] tell me what you need from me in terms of github apps and also tell me what you have done with new deployment processes
punk6529 Dev Team Chat #1236330 2026-07-24 11:15
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punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #1227267 2026-07-21 23:56
Not worse than caribbean
Context from intrepid #1227263 2026-07-21 23:54
But then again, I lived for years in various Caribbean countries, and surely Italy can’t be worse than that when it comes to services, can it? Caribbean time is a whole other level, lol.
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #1227260 2026-07-21 23:51
gl to you
Context from Zigmarillion #1227257 2026-07-21 23:50
hehe this is what I worry will get on my nerves most. Coming from where everything is online, self service, works relatively fast with government etc. Italy isnt exactly famous for that...😁
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227254 2026-07-21 23:49
because the rest of italy well, it is very pretty...
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227253 2026-07-21 23:49
but malta and cyprus have passed the italian average
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227250 2026-07-21 23:49
by far the most economically productive part of the med
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227249 2026-07-21 23:49
germans basically :slightly_smiling_face:
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227248 2026-07-21 23:48
northern italy is a different animal
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227246 2026-07-21 23:48
so pretty big sub-regional, intra-regional gaps
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #1227242 2026-07-21 23:47
i felt i had been teleported decades back to some rural area "anywhere else in the Med"
Context from punk6529 #1227239 2026-07-21 23:47
i hope i don't hurt anyone's feelings but went to sicily 2 summers ago and it was very pretty but good god they do not have their "running a modern country" shit together
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227239 2026-07-21 23:47
i hope i don't hurt anyone's feelings but went to sicily 2 summers ago and it was very pretty but good god they do not have their "running a modern country" shit together
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227232 2026-07-21 23:46
Greece showing some signs of life but from a lower base
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227231 2026-07-21 23:46
Italy, Spain and Portugal much larger obviously but more stagnant economically
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227229 2026-07-21 23:45
are now highest per capita GDP in Med
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227228 2026-07-21 23:45
malta and cyprus have outperformed everyone
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #1227225 2026-07-21 23:45
in terms of economic growth in european med
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #1227221 2026-07-21 23:44
mostly for foreigners
Context from Zigmarillion #1227218 2026-07-21 23:44
Hehe better to get some tax than what people do there mostly now.. put their money in the "mattress" 😁
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #1227220 2026-07-21 23:44
not Dubai attractive but also different lifestyle trade
Context from punk6529 #1227211 2026-07-21 23:43
Greece, Italy, Cyprus, Malta all have reasonably attractive tax schemes