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punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053570 2026-06-02 20:02
other than a handful of collections near the floor
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053569 2026-06-02 20:02
it is really hard to value anything right now
punk6529 6529 Network Museum Reply #1053566 2026-06-02 20:01
we do hand valuations each january on all 1,000 fund NFTs
Context from david #1053561 2026-06-02 20:01
I just question how it all evens out
punk6529 6529 Network Museum Reply #1053558 2026-06-02 20:01
flip side is also true
Context from david #1053554 2026-06-02 20:00
maybe. I have seen them value things at 40 ETH that was actually 0
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053556 2026-06-02 20:00
i think they are redoing the whole algorithm in any case
punk6529 6529 Network Museum Reply #1053551 2026-06-02 20:00
it evens out at this level
Context from david #1053549 2026-06-02 19:59
bc I know you use them for some things. I have seen some attrocious valuations on my portfolio.
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053550 2026-06-02 20:00
$5.5B - this number here is pretty good. it is missing RP, 1/1s, tezos, ordinals so add I dunno $0.5B to $1B to whatever the floating figure is https://nftvaluations.com/
punk6529 6529 Network Museum Reply #1053546 2026-06-02 19:59
wow
Context from maybe #1053544 2026-06-02 19:58
@[punk6529] off topic memu poked her head in a couple waves recently
punk6529 6529 Network Museum Reply #1053543 2026-06-02 19:58
keeping your art allocation in your portfolio equal! smart!
Context from maybe #1053542 2026-06-02 19:57
i would mint a meme card so maybe worth it
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053541 2026-06-02 19:57
is that worth more or less than what the smithsonian is worth to America over years and decades and centuries
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053539 2026-06-02 19:56
so if we liquidated the smithsonian, we each get $165
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053538 2026-06-02 19:56
Using “all Americans” as the U.S. population/residents denominator, I get 342.68 million from the latest FRED/BEA monthly population series, so each $1 billion of value equals about $2.92 per American. (FRED) The Smithsonian is a weird legal/financial object: Congress created it as a trust of the United States administered by the Board of Regents, and its FY2025 audited financials split assets into Trust and Federal buckets. Audited balance-sheet answer, before valuing the collections Valuation bucket Value Per American Trust net assets without donor restrictions — the narrow “cashable-ish” bucket closest to the “$5 stake” joke $1.819B $5.31 Total net assets without donor restrictions $3.403B $9.93 Total Smithsonian net assets, including donor-restricted assets $6.509B $18.99 Total gross assets before liabilities $7.891B $23.03 Cash/Treasury + investments, gross $4.411B $12.87 So the clean accounting answer is: about $19 per American net, or $23 per American gross, excluding the collections. That exclusion is the whole point. The Smithsonian assigns no balance-sheet value to its collections “in conformity with the practice generally followed by museums”; proceeds from deaccessions are designated for future collection acquisitions, not general cash distribution. Also, some land occupied by Smithsonian buildings is titled in the name of the U.S. government and assigned no financial-statement value. My orderly-sale fair-market-value estimate The IRS-style fair-market-value concept is a willing buyer and willing seller, neither forced, both informed. (IRS) The Smithsonian says its collections are nearly 157 million objects, works of art, and specimens, including nearly 148 million scientific specimens at Natural History. (Smithsonian Institution) That means the value is extremely skewed: most objects have little private-market value, while a small number of icons, art works, gems, aircraft/space artifacts, presidential/historical objects, etc. would carry huge prices if they could legally and ethically be sold. For an orderly sale over years, my working FMV range for the collections alone would be: Hypothetical collection FMV Collection value per American Add audited net assets All-in per American $25B low case $73 $31.5B total $92 $50B base case $146 $56.5B total $165 $75B high case $219 $81.5B total $238 $100B aggressive upper case $292 $106.5B total $311 I would put my single-number estimate around $50B for the collections, making the Smithsonian’s all-in orderly-sale value roughly $56.5B, or about $165 per American. A sanity check: the global art market was about $59.6B in sales in 2025. (Global) A Smithsonian collection sale of $25B–$75B over ten years would equal roughly 4%–13% of one year’s global art-market volume per year, which is large but not impossible if marketed globally and slowly. Much above $100B starts requiring either decades of absorption, exceptional sovereign/mega-collector bidding, or heroic assumptions about the top icons. So: $5 is only defensible for a narrow unrestricted-trust-accounting slice. $19 is the audited net-asset number. $100–$250 per American is the more plausible “orderly-sale including collections” thought-experiment range, with ~$165 as my midpoint. The public-good value is a different question and likely much higher than the sell-the-marble number.
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053537 2026-06-02 19:55
and people in the future have the right to make that decision then
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053535 2026-06-02 19:55
if it is a good idea to fund the museum
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053534 2026-06-02 19:55
and bind people 1, 5, 25 years down the line
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053533 2026-06-02 19:55
i do not want to bake anything into the protocol
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053531 2026-06-02 19:54
we don't know how many projects we want to do in the end
punk6529 6529 Network Museum Reply #1053529 2026-06-02 19:54
no need. each project we do like this one, should stand alone; it can submit meme cards or next gen or stream or whatever else
Context from david #1053514 2026-06-02 19:49
we could in theory take a small % of each mint and add it to a treasury for acquisitiosn
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053510 2026-06-02 19:49
but by Americabeing a more valuable brand, attractive desitnation etc
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053508 2026-06-02 19:48
because most of the value of the statue of liberty is not captured by the ticket sales office
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053506 2026-06-02 19:48
and so if you sold it based on a normal business valuation of a multiple of the profit of ticket sales and someone shipped it off to russia or china or qatar
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053503 2026-06-02 19:48
for the united states than the ticket sales to visit it
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053502 2026-06-02 19:47
the statue of liberty creates WAY more value
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053501 2026-06-02 19:47
that it creates value that it cannot capture
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053498 2026-06-02 19:47
the defining item is not income/not income
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053496 2026-06-02 19:46
where does their money come from otherwise
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053488 2026-06-02 19:44
like barbarians taking down a classical monument for the marble it contains
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053486 2026-06-02 19:43
it is cringe bc the people are missing the point
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053482 2026-06-02 19:43
they make eveything else more valuable
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053481 2026-06-02 19:43
museums, cultural institutions, parks, marine preserves, in some cases hospitals, universities, armies are public goods
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053475 2026-06-02 19:41
is putting on their net worth statement
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053474 2026-06-02 19:41
and it is not like each American citizen
punk6529 6529 Network Museum #1053471 2026-06-02 19:41
in some way of course the state owns the smithsonian and in principle could sell it and could then distribute the money as a tax refund or something