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punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #840350 2026-03-30 22:38
i think the network museum itself
Context from david #840347 2026-03-30 22:38
Do you think the network museum is a distraction vs stream and the consensus stuff but it is very interesting to you so you focus on it? Should we maybe figure it out later or you think it needs to be now?
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #840345 2026-03-30 22:38
obviously, I am capable of doing this all by myself ;)
Context from punk6529 #840338 2026-03-30 22:37
i am not going to complain to the SEC that you tricked me out of my life savings by selling me worthless JPGs
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840338 2026-03-30 22:37
i am not going to complain to the SEC that you tricked me out of my life savings by selling me worthless JPGs
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840333 2026-03-30 22:37
and if you are swapping with me personally
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840328 2026-03-30 22:37
bc either it is the network
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840325 2026-03-30 22:36
don't worry abotu this case
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #840324 2026-03-30 22:36
this is fine
Context from gpebbles #840321 2026-03-30 22:36
if we can have confidence it is not
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840312 2026-03-30 22:35
i can't be everyone's global securities lawyer
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840309 2026-03-30 22:35
i think we have to leave it to everyone to decide
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840305 2026-03-30 22:35
1/ too small to matter 2/ non-USA 3/ USA and larger but decentralized 4/ USA and larger and not decentralized and check KYC, etc etc
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840302 2026-03-30 22:34
I think will fall into one of these categories
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840301 2026-03-30 22:34
the affiliated network museum collections
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840300 2026-03-30 22:34
the blockchain should fail on #4
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840299 2026-03-30 22:34
The network museum fails on #3 and that is the end of that
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840297 2026-03-30 22:33
The **Howey Test** is a U.S. Supreme Court framework (from the 1946 case SEC v. W. J. Howey Co.) used to determine whether something qualifies as an **“investment contract”** (and therefore a security). It has **four parts** — all must be satisfied: --- **1) Investment of money** There must be some form of value contributed • Not just cash — can include crypto, assets, or services --- **2) In a common enterprise** The investor’s fortunes are linked to others • Typically horizontal commonality (pooled funds) • Sometimes vertical (tied to promoter success) --- **3) Expectation of profits** The investor is expecting financial returns • Capital appreciation or income • Not just consumption or use --- **4) Derived from the efforts of others** The profits depend primarily on someone else’s work • Promoter, issuer, or third party • Not the investor’s own active efforts --- **In practice (quick intuition):** If people put money into something, expect to make money, and rely on a team to make that happen → it’s likely a security.
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840290 2026-03-30 22:32
I dunno, probably a security
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840289 2026-03-30 22:32
GPebbles Great JPG Selector 1/ raising $100M 2/ GPebbles make all the decisions 3/ Gpebbles gets 2/20 and controls the SAFE 4/ gpebbles told everyone in writing that he expects we are going to make a lot of money
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840286 2026-03-30 22:31
Network Museum 1/ you don't get any money back ever, you don't sell anything 2/ TDH is in charge 3/ there is no manager 4/ there is no fee this is not a security
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840278 2026-03-30 22:30
i am burdened by knowing too much
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840277 2026-03-30 22:30
is how can we do it and not accidentally create a security
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840276 2026-03-30 22:30
all of the difficulty in almost anything I want to do
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #840274 2026-03-30 22:30
this is my point
Context from gpebbles #840272 2026-03-30 22:29
um sir this is kind of part of the thesis
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840269 2026-03-30 22:29
will not think "we need to protect capital markets in the United States by preventing you from doing that"
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840266 2026-03-30 22:28
if you and @maybe and 5 others each chip in 10 ETH to buy some JPGs I am 99.99999999999999999999% sure
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840265 2026-03-30 22:28
a lot of this is "it depends"
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #840259 2026-03-30 22:27
well I am an accredited investor so in this particular case it won't matter
Context from gpebbles #840257 2026-03-30 22:27
so you do not think me selling you 5% of my current gpebbles collection would be security?
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840256 2026-03-30 22:27
basically you have to make it permissioned
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840255 2026-03-30 22:27
and it is a big nuisance with onchain
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840254 2026-03-30 22:27
you need to check if your buyers are accredited investors
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840250 2026-03-30 22:26
and of course you are allowed to sell securities
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840249 2026-03-30 22:26
or at a minimum you are selling a security
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840247 2026-03-30 22:26
where eventually you become a fund manager
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #840243 2026-03-30 22:26
indeed
Context from gpebbles #840240 2026-03-30 22:26
i also could see a scenario.. where let's say i wanted to start a fresh collection with 1,000 eth.. but i raise the eth from others and all get some share of the 1,000 NFTs backing the collection.. that i would still want control over decisions
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840241 2026-03-30 22:26
it is all quite interesting
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #840238 2026-03-30 22:25
but this is a good solution for minority protection